[Jordan.]

I don't get how that makes her skank? She's enjoying herself and doesn't cause harm to anyone so let her get on with it.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I don't get how that makes her skank? She's enjoying herself and doesn't cause harm to anyone so let her get on with it.

The Oxford Dictionary defines the word "skank" as "a promiscuous woman". She is indeed a skank

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

The Oxford Dictionary defines the word "skank" as "a promiscuous woman". She is indeed a skank

Agree 100%

[Munchkins]

Plus i bet her daughter will be brought up with an open attitutde to Sex, and Luisa will educate her on what she has done etc.. so its not like its going to come out of the blue to her daughter one day at school hey look what your mum did
She seems like she really loves her daughter, and on the segment on the apprentice where it showed them together they seemed to have a great relationship, and thats all that matters really

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Don't most people like sex ?? The difference is decent people and good mothers don't feel the need to act like a complete slut on and boast about how loose they are.
There will definitely come a time where that child will be made fun of at school for how her mum acted on television.

^^^^
THIS

Everyone loves sex & some of us may even have a kinkier side, but we don't all broadcast it... If Luisa didn't have any children I wouldn't think of her actions as that bad, but when you have a child you have a moral obligation to that child & I personally think she should have a bit more respect for her child, but first needs to find a little self respect...

[Z]

Originally Posted by Munchkins

Plus i bet her daughter will be brought up with an open attitutde to Sex, and Luisa will educate her on what she has done etc.. so its not like its going to come out of the blue to her daughter one day at school hey look what your mum did
She seems like she really loves her daughter, and on the segment on the apprentice where it showed them together they seemed to have a great relationship, and thats all that matters really

Just playing devil's advocate here - but either Luisa has to tell her daughter at a young age all about her past or risk someone else revealing that information to her daughter in a less than pleasant way. Do you risk corrupting (can't think of a better word) your daughter at the age of, say, 11 years old by telling her all about your sexploits just so it isn't shocking if other people bring it up but cutting her childhood short, or do you hope that other kids don't know who her mother is and keep it a secret from her until you're ready to talk about it at a more appropriate age?

[Munchkins]

Originally Posted by Zee

Just playing devil's advocate here - but either Luisa has to tell her daughter at a young age all about her past or risk someone else revealing that information to her daughter in a less than pleasant way. Do you risk corrupting (can't think of a better word) your daughter at the age of, say, 11 years old by telling her all about your sexploits just so it isn't shocking if other people bring it up but cutting her childhood short, or do you hope that other kids don't know who her mother is and keep it a secret from her until you're ready to talk about it at a more appropriate age?

I probably think its better to know off her mother than the children in the playground who could put it in a far crueler way, plus year 6, when kids are 11 is typically when sex education is all brought up etc, yes Luisas antics are going to be far more than they are taught, but its best to do that, then let the others tell her

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Zee

Just playing devil's advocate here - but either Luisa has to tell her daughter at a young age all about her past or risk someone else revealing that information to her daughter in a less than pleasant way. Do you risk corrupting (can't think of a better word) your daughter at the age of, say, 11 years old by telling her all about your sexploits just so it isn't shocking if other people bring it up but cutting her childhood short, or do you hope that other kids don't know who her mother is and keep it a secret from her until you're ready to talk about it at a more appropriate age?

And also risk your daughter thinking promiscuity is ok?

[Munchkins]

Originally Posted by Lee.

And also risk your daughter thinking promiscuity is ok?

But why isnt it ok? personally i never would and it does go against the morals ive been brought up with BUT if its consensual and no-ones being harmed why not sleep with many people?

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Munchkins

But why isnt it ok? personally i never would and it does go against the morals ive been brought up with BUT if its consensual and no-ones being harmed why not sleep with many people?

I suspect you'll probably want to bring your kids up in the same way your parent have brought you up? I'm not being smart.. That's a genuine question.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Lee.

And also risk your daughter thinking promiscuity is ok?

..but that's to do with how it's all broached with her child and also how her daughter personally feels about things and really down to personal parenting skills which we know absolutely nothing about with Luisa and can't really judge...

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..but that's to do with how it's all broached with her child and also how her daughter personally feels about things and really down to personal parenting skills which we know absolutely nothing about with Luisa and can't really judge...

In my opinion, it's shocking that it will have to be broached at all.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zee

Just playing devil's advocate here - but either Luisa has to tell her daughter at a young age all about her past or risk someone else revealing that information to her daughter in a less than pleasant way. Do you risk corrupting (can't think of a better word) your daughter at the age of, say, 11 years old by telling her all about your sexploits just so it isn't shocking if other people bring it up but cutting her childhood short, or do you hope that other kids don't know who her mother is and keep it a secret from her until you're ready to talk about it at a more appropriate age?

..but Luisa doesn't need to reveal anything though because she already has done on National TV and that's a decision she has mad and although her daughter is not old enough to watch..(or she's been allowed/I wouldn't know..) Luisa will know that once information is out there, there is a high chance that she will find out through the media etc ...and beyond that, it's up to Luisa how she will broach it face to face with her daughter/what age etc.. but it may be something that has already been talked about because that's a parenting decision only...

[Munchkins]

At the age of 10/11 thats when sex education is taught in schools though, sometimes its more embarassing for kids to have a lack of knowledge, when they become the only one in a class to not know a certain sex term, or not know what this means etc, thats often more humiliating for the child, than knowing all the details
I know at my secondary school, the kids who didnt know much, always had to pretend they did etc

[flamingGalah!]

It's one thing for young school children to be taught the basics of the 'birds & the bees' but something else completely if they are taught about group sex parties & the like lol...

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Munchkins

At the age of 10/11 thats when sex education is taught in schools though, sometimes its more embarassing for kids to have a lack of knowledge, when they become the only one in a class to not know a certain sex term, or not know what this means etc, thats often more humiliating for the child, than knowing all the details
I know at my secondary school, the kids who didnt know much, always had to pretend they did etc

I'm all for informative sex education.. My daughter started hers last year when she was 8/9.. Some conversations we had about it were slightly amusing and cringey though. She came home shouting "I know what you did!! There was no little egg that just grew in your tummy"

Anyhow.. I'm not really meaning luisas daughter being educated about sex.. That's normal; I'm talking about either her mum or some nasty little kids having to tell her that her mum enjoys sleeping around with both men and women and obviously does so without any emotions or feelings towards the men/women.

[Munchkins]

Originally Posted by Lee.

I'm all for informative sex education.. My daughter started hers last year when she was 8/9.. Some conversations we had about it were slightly amusing and cringey though. She came home shouting "I know what you did!! There was no little egg that just grew in your tummy"

Anyhow.. I'm not really meaning luisas daughter being educated about sex.. That's normal; I'm talking about either her mum or some nasty little kids having to tell her that her mum enjoys sleeping around with both men and women and obviously does so without any emotions or feelings towards the men/women.

When my mum told me everything i still assumed the baby come out of the bellybutton

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Munchkins

When my mum told me everything i still assumed the baby come out of the bellybutton

Yes, so did my daughter.. Although I didn't totally make it up as I had 2 c-sections

She was appalled to learn where she had come from!! Lol

[Z]

I just think how awful it would be to be at school and have other kids making fun of you because your mum's slept with 5 people in one night and it's out there on YouTube for all to see. I don't know anything about my parents' sex lives either as a married couple or before I was born, nor would I want to, and I know that I'd have been devastated if I'd been at school and people knew something about my parents' sex lives that I didn't... I mean it's one thing explaining sex education to an 11 year old but it's another thing to tell them about sex parties, don't you think? Sex education is about teaching children what sex is; and I think Luisa having to explain her past to her daughter is jumping right off the diving board into the deep end, as far as sex education goes...

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Zee

I just think how awful it would be to be at school and have other kids making fun of you because your mum's slept with 5 people in one night and it's out there on YouTube for all to see. I don't know anything about my parents' sex lives either as a married couple or before I was born, nor would I want to, and I know that I'd have been devastated if I'd been at school and people knew something about my parents' sex lives that I didn't... I mean it's one thing explaining sex education to an 11 year old but it's another thing to tell them about sex parties, don't you think? Sex education is about teaching children what sex is; and I think Luisa having to explain her past to her daughter is jumping right off the diving board into the deep end, as far as sex education goes...

The name calling would probably come from the children who's parents do the same thing. Name calling her a slag, *****, slut etc.. That type of judgemental bahaviour is learned.

[Z]

Originally Posted by MrWong

The name calling would probably come from the children who's parents do the same thing. Name calling her a slag, *****, slut etc.. That type of judgemental bahaviour is learned.

Possibly, but I think a huge part of being 11-14 years old is asserting yourself over other people which is why there's a lot of bullying at that age in schools, because people will look for any reason to make others feel excluded in order to validate their own inclusivity in a particular group - easy targets are always the kids who look different (weight, height, appearance based things like braces, glasses, hair colour, an unusual feature etc) and as they get closer to 14 years old the insults get more cocky and based around sex ("your mum's a ____" type comments) so I'd say any child of a celebrity behaving badly is at risk of being bullied at that age; because if there's documented evidence of their behaviour then it can be used against those children. It's why I think Dappy, Lee and Luisa are all terrible role models to their children.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Zee

I just think how awful it would be to be at school and have other kids making fun of you because your mum's slept with 5 people in one night and it's out there on YouTube for all to see. I don't know anything about my parents' sex lives either as a married couple or before I was born, nor would I want to, and I know that I'd have been devastated if I'd been at school and people knew something about my parents' sex lives that I didn't... I mean it's one thing explaining sex education to an 11 year old but it's another thing to tell them about sex parties, don't you think? Sex education is about teaching children what sex is; and I think Luisa having to explain her past to her daughter is jumping right off the diving board into the deep end, as far as sex education goes...

Well put Greg.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zee

I just think how awful it would be to be at school and have other kids making fun of you because your mum's slept with 5 people in one night and it's out there on YouTube for all to see. I don't know anything about my parents' sex lives either as a married couple or before I was born, nor would I want to, and I know that I'd have been devastated if I'd been at school and people knew something about my parents' sex lives that I didn't... I mean it's one thing explaining sex education to an 11 year old but it's another thing to tell them about sex parties, don't you think? Sex education is about teaching children what sex is; and I think Luisa having to explain her past to her daughter is jumping right off the diving board into the deep end, as far as sex education goes...

..yeah but some people would die on the spot if their parents ever mentioned sex, let alone in reference to their own sex lives because they would probably rather think that their parents had never had sex...I know that's an exaggeration but you know what I mean..and that's fine too because everyone is different and I think sex in general can be a very 'sensitive' thing to talk about because it is so personal ..but others are totally open about it in every way and even with their children and whether we think that's the right thing to be or not, it doesn't make it right or wrong to do it, just that we wouldn't personally do...on the flipside and slightly off topic, it can be just as unimaginable to think that your child would have sex because they're your child, you wouldn't even want to think that and I personally don't want to know any details about my sons' sex lives but that's fine because they don't want to discuss it either..but if they wanted to talk to me about it, I would listen and not judge them for it..(just give my thoughts about stuff..) but inevitably they are them and not me and have to be themselves, not an extension of me or live the same life that I live...and I do know of other parents whose children discuss details of their sex life with them because that's just what they do, everyone is different... Luisa is a mother, yes but she's also a woman and a person in her own right and her sex life is completely up to her and how she discusses that with her daughter is completely up to her as well...just like with what people said about Jim, it's discussing things in the house, which is how people personally judge her sexual activities that she's mentioned but beyond that and any effects on her daughter are just speculation so there isn't anything to judge anyway...

[Munchkins]

Plus would they actually make fun of her?? ive never seen other peoples parents even been brought up once, as an argument etc
The whole arguments just relying on hypotheticals completely, so theres no real point to it

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Munchkins

Plus would they actually make fun of her?? ive never seen other peoples parents even been brought up once, as an argument etc
The whole arguments just relying on hypotheticals completely, so theres no real point to it

What someone elses mum said on a reality TV show years ago will clearly be on all their minds.