[Mystic Mock]

Tbf I think this measure isn't a bad idea, I also like the fact that it's not gonna be a routine thing either and that it will only be for really severe situations.

[Kizzy]

What teen, Mark Duggan was 29?
And he had a gun.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What teen, Mark Duggan was 29?
And he had a gun.

not in his hand

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Salman!

not in his hand

were you there?

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

were you there?

forensic evidence proved he didn't have it in his hand
jury also decided he threw it before being confronted
bye

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Salman!

forensic evidence proved he didn't have it in his hand
jury also decided he threw it before being confronted
bye

Are you going?..
He lobbed it out of the car.... the armed officer wasn't aware, it was a split second decision.
It was a shame he was killed but it doesn't explain away the riots.

[Jack_]

The riots were a case of opportunistic theft that has been encouraged by excessive consumerism. This is what happens when you teach people to value having expensive material goods - if they find themselves in an opportune situation, they're going to make the most of it. Especially if they already have very little wealth or possessions anyway.

The only people that should have been prosecuted were those who torched family-run businesses, that is unexplainable and disgusting.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jack_

The riots were a case of opportunistic theft that has been encouraged by excessive consumerism. This is what happens when you teach people to value having expensive material goods - if they find themselves in an opportune situation, they're going to make the most of it. Especially if they already have very little wealth or possessions anyway.

The only people that should have been prosecuted were those who torched family-run businesses, that is unexplainable and disgusting.

Yes Left Wing Scum

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Left Wing Scum

I don't think those who did that were politicised at all so this is just a bizarre comment, please stop trolling arista, you're better than that

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I don't think those who did that were politicised at all so this is just a bizarre comment, please stop trolling arista, you're better than that

Some were Left Wingers
that was in the news.


No such trolling

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by arista

Some were Left Wingers
that was in the news.


No such trolling

Then it must be true.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jack_

The riots were a case of opportunistic theft that has been encouraged by excessive consumerism. This is what happens when you teach people to value having expensive material goods - if they find themselves in an opportune situation, they're going to make the most of it. Especially if they already have very little wealth or possessions anyway.

The only people that should have been prosecuted were those who torched family-run businesses, that is unexplainable and disgusting.

I dont recall riots anywhere else like Norwich, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Cork, Dover, Orkney, Perth, Stirling, Portsmouth, Rhyll, Newquay etc

so the youth there are different from very small sections of London?

[Crimson Dynamo]

The riots were crime, by low rent oiks with no stable family life and no father figure. They got jailed as they deserved.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The riots were crime, by low rent oiks with no stable family life and no father figure. They got jailed as they deserved.

Uh, what now?

Is the single mother argument rearing its ugly head?

[Apple202]

if only this was around when the riots were happening

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Apple202

if only this was around when the riots were happening

Yes, those vile scumbags would have got a gut full of water and knock some sense into their criminal bodies

[Kizzy]

Right can we get back to mad boris and his cannons of chav destruction now?

[Livia]

No one's going to be turning water cannon on to peaceful protesters.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

No one's going to be turning water cannon on to peaceful protesters.

Im not sure the police would hold back on gay pride

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Im not sure the police would hold back on gay pride

No... that's the bubble machine. It's quite different.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

No... that's the bubble machine. It's quite different.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

No one's going to be turning water cannon on to peaceful protesters.

Why not? they use kettling and that's unlawful at peaceful protests? There will no doubt be a law change before summer so they can give these £200,000 babies a spin.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Why not? they use kettling and that's unlawful at peaceful protests? There will no doubt be a law change before summer so they can give these £200,000 babies a spin.

This discussion isn't about kettling, it's about water cannon. And the suggestion that they'll change the law to "take these babies for a spin" is, at best, ridiculous.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

This discussion isn't about kettling, it's about water cannon. And the suggestion that they'll change the law to "take these babies for a spin" is, at best, ridiculous.

It's a measure used to control crowds at protests so not a million miles away is it? The changes they have already made to restrict protests in and around London and Westminster in particular means it's not that 'ridiculous' Please try not to be so disparaging with your replies it's really disconcerting.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Livia

No one's going to be turning water cannon on to peaceful protesters.

Mte... They aren't going to use them on random innocent people