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Old 26-03-2014, 12:06 PM #1
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How many other proffessions get paid holidays like that all through the year,not many is there? I cant think of any offhand.
The strike is about taking the responsibility for schools away from the Local Authorities and handing them over to private business?
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I think teachers and nurses should be treated better because everybody at some point in their life has to deal with them. Teachers shape the young minds of tomorrow and nurses look after all of us from birth to death. Yes there are tougher jobs out there, as Toy Soldier says, but I think that essential jobs like teaching and nursing should be better supported so that 1) the staff are properly rewarded for the hard work they do put in and 2) better people are attracted to those jobs to stop the rubbish teachers/nurses from getting jobs just because they need the staff and having a crap employee is better than having no employee.
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I wonder how many people really appreciate the hard work and long hours teachers have to put in just to stay abreast of the work.

My partner is a college lecturer in English and the amount of hours he has to put in with lesson preparations and marking , not to mention unannounced OFSTED observations which can add even more stress to overworked teachers.

The holidays are long but they have to start two weeks early and are required to go on courses during summer break. Also they NEED long breaks to de stress after a hard year.

And the money they get is not as much as other professions , they are undervalued and not given the respect they deserve by successive Govts .

No wonder as a last resort they feel the only option is strike action.
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and think of all the holiday and inservice days
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and think of all the holiday and inservice days
You should have become a teacher, jealousy is a terrible thing.

For all those who probably won't bother to read back through the thread

today's strike in part is about a government proposal to take away the responsibility for schools from the Local Authority and have them run by private business (presumably for a profit).

Nobody has yet commented on this, so I wait with bated breath a response.
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You should have become a teacher, jealousy is a terrible thing.

For all those who probably won't bother to read back through the thread

today's strike in part is about a government proposal to take away the responsibility for schools from the Local Authority and have them run by private business (presumably for a profit).

Nobody has yet commented on this, so I wait with bated breath a response.
Thousands of schools in England and Wales are closed, as teachers join rallies and picket lines in a strike over pay, pensions and conditions.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-26729786
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Thousands of schools in England and Wales are closed, as teachers join rallies and picket lines in a strike over pay, pensions and conditions.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-26729786

http://www.hackneygazette.co.uk/news...tion_1_3485740

“Teachers will not stand by and let Michael Gove and this government destroy the education system,” he said.

“Gove’s policy of creeping privatisation includes the deregulation of teacher’s pay and conditions - we will not let that happen.”
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..oh I also meant to say Cherie that I read the link, yeah I was aware of that but it's not a recent thing..?...if anything, the schools here have increased the LSA's hours over the last few years and employed more, a lot of them HLSAs because what the government says makes no sense whatsoever...there isn't the budget to always get supply teachers and a lot of supply teachers are nowhere near as good as an LSA who knows the children/school/timetable etc ..obviously we're a primary school and don't have specialist topic teachers though...but how are they going to fund more teaching staff when none of the support workers have had a salary increase for over 4 years and it's just been extended to another 4 years...?...crazy....
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You should have become a teacher, jealousy is a terrible thing.

For all those who probably won't bother to read back through the thread

today's strike in part is about a government proposal to take away the responsibility for schools from the Local Authority and have them run by private business (presumably for a profit).

Nobody has yet commented on this, so I wait with bated breath a response.
LOL. Well theres a change...
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Can they not do this in term though?

I think the whole point of a strike is disruption so they draw attention to it.


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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-26729786
You are missing the point though of course pay, pensions and conditions will change if schools are privatised
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..oh I also meant to say Cherie that I read the link, yeah I was aware of that but it's not a recent thing..?...if anything, the schools here have increased the LSA's hours over the last few years and employed more, a lot of them HLSAs because what the government says makes no sense whatsoever...there isn't the budget to always get supply teachers and a lot of supply teachers are nowhere near as good as an LSA who knows the children/school/timetable etc ..obviously we're a primary school and don't have specialist topic teachers though...but how are they going to fund more teaching staff when none of the support workers have had a salary increase for over 4 years and it's just been extended to another 4 years...?...crazy....

It is fairly recent, I think it came up some time last year, we recently signed a petition about it through our Union Rep so it is an ongoing proposal.
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I think the whole point of a strike is disruption so they draw attention to it.




You are missing the point though of course pay, pensions and conditions will change if schools are privatised



It is fairly recent, I think it came up some time last year, we recently signed a petition about it through our Union Rep so it is an ongoing proposal.
..do you really think it would happen though, Cherie..they couldn't afford more teaching staff on the budgets..?...
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Lazy bastards tbh

I usually don't complain about a day off, but I'd have rather gone in today.
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I usually don't complain about a day off, but I'd have rather gone in today.
This strike has nothing to do with being overworked or underpaid
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Well that Corrupt Union (NUT) only got 40%
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Yes 6th Form Colleges got the Legal OK
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So students will Join Teachers on Strike?
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I would hate to be a teacher,I know someone who is and they work a lot more than likely people think, a good bit of it from home outside of term times,preparing for term time and also as to assessing pupils progress or lack of it.

Good luck to them if this is the only way to get their voices really heard.
like Doctors as to health and care,my guess is teachers know far more about educating children than those in govt.
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I'm with Cherie on this.

The privatisation kick that the Tories are on needs to be stopped and it's foolish to discredit the strike just because you're jealous of the Holiday time.

If you had to deal with hateful inbred brats every day you'd need a six week holiday too.
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good to see tube drivers working weekends

when will lazy teachers?
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I suspect, once they've managed to privatize every school in the land and the privateers have got rid of any surplus to requirement staff, they will start charging for extra curricular activities such as sports, music and art.
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I found a 2014 Thread
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The Strike Ballot Result is at 5PM today


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Teachers in England and Wales have voted to Strike.

Dates soon
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It feels like everybody is on strike these days.
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Unfortunately the Tories have collapsed the economy so... Yes... They are.

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