[Jack_]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Because people express opinions that differ to yours?

No, because we end up having exactly the same argument every single time and it doesn't ever go anywhere, people then start baiting and it just causes animosity

On a separate note though I really refute this idea that people should shy away from doing 'different' things so as to avoid 'bullying', do people not see how counterproductive and damaging that notion actually is? That just perpetuates the problem because it doesn't bring the issues to the fore and normalise them. The more something is done the more people become used to it and it is no longer seen as 'abnormal', therefore it's not really something that can be used by bullies. The longer people decide to prevent themselves or others from doing things they think might be used against them, the more bullies win and that solves nothing

If everyone who thought like that decided to wise up and go ahead with what they were shying away from in the first place then such issues would be dealt with a lot quicker

[Josy]

I honestly don't even think this story has anything to do with gender stereotyping, discrimination etc the child is obviously dressing up like that to imitate what his sisters do at home, it's not as if it's every day proper clothing..

Regardless of what this boy wants to wear he still has to learn that there are rules in some places and his mother, instead of running to the papers should be sitting him down and explaining to him that a kids club is maybe not the right setting to be wearing dress up clothes. He wouldn't turn up at the school he attends wearing this stuff so why should the kids club be any different? and if the child really does want to wear dresses why not proper clothing?

As for the kids club well the spokesperson has said they have been asked to wear clothing of the gender stated on his registration form, which states male.

I don't see a problem with them enforcing that.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by L

In my opinion, his parents need to dress him like a boy when he is out the house. If he was 15 and wanted to dress as a girl, then that would be fair enough, but he is only a child playing dress-up. This has nothing to do with gender identity, and parents who bring this sort of BS to the media are attention-*****s.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Josy

I honestly don't even think this story has anything to do with gender stereotyping, discrimination etc the child is obviously dressing up like that to imitate what his sisters do at home, it's not as if it's every day proper clothing..

Regardless of what this boy wants to wear he still has to learn that there are rules in some places and his mother, instead of running to the papers should be sitting him down and explaining to him that a kids club is maybe not the right setting to be wearing dress up clothes. He wouldn't turn up at the school he attends wearing this stuff so why should the kids club be any different? and if the child really does want to wear dresses why not proper clothing?

As for the kids club well the spokesperson has said they have been asked to wear clothing of the gender stated on his registration form, which states male.

I don't see a problem with them enforcing that.

I don't agree with dress codes anytime, anywhere though so I'm not even going to be able to agree with that. But then I'm a liberal so

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Let the boy wear what he wants when he is home ( although I think over a 100 dresses is excessive) but at school he should be dressed as a boy.

Cannot understand why the mother would think a boy of this age has the maturity to make an informed decision as to what to wear.

She is leaving her son open to serious ridicule by allowing him to dress like this in public .

This story should really be about the mothers issues not the little boy's.

Yes its a reflection on the mum

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I don't agree with dress codes anytime, anywhere though so I'm not even going to be able to agree with that. But then I'm a liberal so

So you think people should be able to wear dress up clothes when ever and where ever?

Just out of curiosity then, would you be fine with going to your doctors and he or she was sitting wearing a pink tutu and ballet slippers?

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Josy

So you think people should be able to wear dress up clothes when ever and where ever?

Just out of curiosity then, would you be fine with going to your doctors and he or she was sitting wearing a pink tutu and ballet slippers?

Yes, clothes are clothes, artificial creations and have no bearing whatsoever on a person. I literally couldn't care any less about what people wear

And absolutely, I'm there to get medical treatment and advice not admire her clothes/dress sense I genuinely don't get why people care, people can still do jobs competently or act like normal human beings wearing whatever clothes they want

[Livia]

I have three little nieces. Between them they have a mass of princess dresses... but nowhere near 100. Furthermore, none of them ever wear (or wore) dressing up clothes for school or for nursery because it would be inappropriate and unpractical. It's an attention-seeking exercise and it's worked.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Yes, clothes are clothes, artificial creations and have no bearing whatsoever on a person. I literally couldn't care any less about what people wear

And absolutely, I'm there to get medical treatment and advice not admire her clothes/dress sense I genuinely don't get why people care, people can still do jobs competently or act like normal human beings wearing whatever clothes they want

I disagree Jack, a dress up costume is not normal clothing.

Dress up clothing is not suitable day to day in a professional setting either.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

No, because we end up having exactly the same argument every single time and it doesn't ever go anywhere, people then start baiting and it just causes animosity

There is no arguments, people are discussing.

Originally Posted by Jack_

Yes, clothes are clothes, artificial creations and have no bearing whatsoever on a person. I literally couldn't care any less about what people wear

You could take your GP seriously if he sat there dressed as Snow White?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Yes, clothes are clothes, artificial creations and have no bearing whatsoever on a person. I literally couldn't care any less about what people wear

And absolutely, I'm there to get medical treatment and advice not admire her clothes/dress sense I genuinely don't get why people care, people can still do jobs competently or act like normal human beings wearing whatever clothes they want

As a matter of interest what would you wear to an important job interview?

[Crimson Dynamo]

sees Nigel Farage arrive at QT dressed as a black and white minstrel and Jack saying

"all is well, first question please"

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

sees Nigel Farage arrive at QT dressed as a black and white minstrel and Jack saying

"all is well, first question please"

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by L

In my opinion, his parents need to dress him like a boy when he is out the house. If he was 15 and wanted to dress as a girl, then that would be fair enough, but he is only a child playing dress-up. This has nothing to do with gender identity, and parents who bring this sort of BS to the media are attention-*****s.

Exactly but no doubt all this gender equality moaners will harp on about this for weeks on end.


No offence btw jack, I just get so bored of seeing crap like this dominate the media. If this kid was 15 fine, but he is a young kid and he will get bullied and teased for crap like this, not fair on the kid.

[armand.kay]

If the boy wants to dress like a princess to the playground let him jheez he's at a playground he is suppose to have fun. I mean I see allot of girls in the playground with dress up cloths and I use to go to the playground in my power ranger gear
I mean it's kind of weird but I ain't complaining

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

If the boy wants to dress like a princess to the playground let him jheez he's at a playground he is suppose to have fun. I mean I see allot of girls in the playground with dress up cloths and I use to go to the playground in my power ranger
I mean it's kind of weird but I ain't complaining

Agree with this...

It's a five year old ffs... if he wants to play dress up, fine, it's not like he's going to job interviews in it

and the "I wouldn't let my son do it because he'd get bullied" point is pretty cowardly but understandable... people really need to stop judging what others wear though. (Unless they're tramps like Sallie Axl in which case they deserve it )

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Agree with this...

It's a five year old ffs... if he wants to play dress up, fine, it's not like he's going to job interviews in it

and the "I wouldn't let my son do it because he'd get bullied" point is pretty cowardly but understandable... people really need to stop judging what others wear though. (Unless they're tramps like Sallie Axl in which case they deserve it )

have a kid and report back

[Marsh.]

If Sallie Axl was my daughter she'd be locked in the basement.

[Jessica.]

That little boy is so adorable though, I love his hair, his mother on the other hand, I don't understand why she chose the dailymail to complain to of all places. I also think the comments about the amount of dresses he has are quite silly, I am sure he probably inherited most of the dresses from his sisters.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

If the boy wants to dress like a princess to the playground let him jheez he's at a playground he is suppose to have fun. I mean I see allot of girls in the playground with dress up cloths and I use to go to the playground in my power ranger gear
I mean it's kind of weird but I ain't complaining

Originally Posted by Shaun

Agree with this...

It's a five year old ffs... if he wants to play dress up, fine, it's not like he's going to job interviews in it

and the "I wouldn't let my son do it because he'd get bullied" point is pretty cowardly but understandable... people really need to stop judging what others wear though. (Unless they're tramps like Sallie Axl in which case they deserve it )

He wasn't in a playground though it was a playgroup..

The kids here have to wear uniforms to playgroup...

[Jessica.]

He goes to school and wears a uniform like all of the other kids, none of the other kids wear uniforms to the church group it seems, they can wear whatever they want, except if a little boy wants to wear a dress because unfortunately it's a crime for someone in possession of a y chromosome to wear a dress.

[Marsh.]

It's not simply a dress though, it's a "dressing up" dress.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

It's not simply a dress though, it's a "dressing up" dress.

What's the difference?

[InOne]

I noticed they cheekily slipped in: The stay-at-home single mother said: 'I was so cross when I was told he couldn’t wear dresses I was speechless - all I could ask was, why?'

Which of course will lead people to ask where all these dresses come from. Typical DM trash story

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by InOne

I noticed they cheekily slipped in: The stay-at-home single mother said: 'I was so cross when I was told he couldn’t wear dresses I was speechless - all I could ask was, why?'

Which of course will lead people to ask where all these dresses come from. Typical DM trash story

I noticed that too but didn't mention it for obvious reasons.