[Withano]

Originally Posted by smeagol

i'm sure this one will get better could well turn out the best yet when it gets going . but i can understand why casuals and even die hards wouldn't be impressed with the start of it.

Only way I can see it vastly improving would be by doing an at least a quadruple eviction and replacing the models with relatively normal people.

Even then though the 'towie-like to classic bb-like' character ratio would still be off, its a shame.

[Samm]

The Cast is fine

[Withano]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

The Cast is fine

Its abysmal and probably the main reason why the ratings are down, blaming it on football won't work all summer.. its not like the fan bases are known to be similar

[jackc1806]

It held up well against a 8million peak audience on ITV.. It isn't an excuse it's fact

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by jackc1806

It held up well against a 8million peak audience on ITV.. It isn't an excuse it's fact

And came 3rd out of all the channels in it's slot.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

The Cast is fine

Sam no offence but every comment made about the ratings and the cast you have to come in and say they are the best yet or ratings are bad because of the weather or the football ect ect .

How are you going to keep this up if this continues over the next week?

I was going to say the next 2 nights will tell, that the first proper highlight shows show accurately how many people will stick with BB but tomorrow there's another twist, another 90 minute show on a Monday night.

Its strange they got everything like the house and graphics spot on but then filled it with a group of housemates who are the reason the public hate BB.

100% wannabes. Plus the fact they have already been on other reality shows is the icing on the cake.

Unfortunately people seem to be over looking it because Rylan has said "they have all been on the cusp of fame" making it sound like its part of the theme.
Its not, its a white wash.

Im not a negative person or a BB hater before anyone starts having a go im just saying it how it is. I love BB and I really want it to smash it in the ratings again but I wont make up lame excuses or be in denial over the reasons its flopping just because its not fan behaviour.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Sam no offence but every comment made about the ratings and the cast you have to come in and say they are the best yet or ratings are bad because of the weather or the football ect ect .

How are you going to keep this up if this continues over the next week?

I was going to say the next 2 nights will tell, that the first proper highlight shows show accurately how many people will stick with BB but tomorrow there's another twist, another 90 minute show on a Monday night.

Its strange they got everything like the house and graphics spot on but then filled it with a group of housemates who are the reason the public hate BB.

100% wannabes. Plus the fact they have already been on other reality shows is the icing on the cake.

Unfortunately people seem to be over looking it because Rylan has said "they have all been on the cusp of fame" making it sound like its part of the theme.
Its not, its a white wash.

Im not a negative person or a BB hater before anyone starts having a go im just saying it how it is. I love BB and I really want it to smash it in the ratings again but I wont make up lame excuses or be in denial over the reasons its flopping just because its not fan behaviour.

The cast IS actually fine though. There's interesting stories starting to develop, different facets, it's deep down what BB is and will always be. People are finding it entertaining.

[Black Dagger]

'normal people'

Like Sam? no thanks.

The cast is fine, couldn't give a **** if you've worked in Greggs or are housemates like these, entertain me for 10 weeks.

[jackc1806]

Tbh anyone can go on X Factor ect so it doesn't bother me

[Rob!]

My only issue comes when they start pretending to be something else for the benefit of the camera. Like acting stupid or pissing about - Charlotte from *****die shore comes to mind and Mark is showing signs of doing it too.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by jackc1806

Tbh anyone can go on X Factor ect so it doesn't bother me

No they cant actually getting infront of the judges takes 2 auditions and talks with producers, signing application forms and letting other media groups contact you if they think you would be suitable for their other shows.

You cant just queue and walk onto the stage as it seems.

[jackc1806]

Perhaps, he does do things for the camera

[jackc1806]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

No they cant actually getting infront of the judges takes 2 auditions and talks with producers, signing application forms and letting other media groups contact you if they think you would be suitable for their other shows.

You cant just queue and walk onto the stage as it seems.

I know, my mums work held X Factor auditions

What I meant was any of us could apply and it doesn't make you a celeb

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by RobInnes

My only issue comes when they start pretending to be something else for the benefit of the camera. Like acting stupid or pissing about - Charlotte from *****die shore comes to mind and Mark is showing signs of doing it too.

I agree with Mark, I allways thought he was BB material because lets face it him and Pauline are the standouts at the moment but after seeing a few clips posted by Channel 5 today he just seems like hes playing to the camera.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by jackc1806

I know, my mums work held X Factor auditions

What I meant was any of us could apply and it doesn't make you a celeb

Yeah I never said that it makes anyone a celeb.

I pointed out the people who have actually appeared on other shows not just that a filled out an application form ect.

They have actually been on other shows, adverts, music videos, documentaries, playboy.

[jackc1806]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Yeah I never said that it makes anyone a celeb.

I pointed out the people who have actually appeared on other shows not just that a filled out an application form ect.

They have actually been on other shows, adverts, music videos, documentaries, playboy ect.

True. I've always thought BB1 was 14 years ago before all these new opportunities like X Factor, Starnow existed. I bet some of the original contestants would be taking advantage of that if BB1 was today

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by jackc1806

True. I've always thought BB1 was 14 years ago before all these new opportunities like X Factor, Starnow existed. I bet some of the original contestants would be taking advantage of that if BB1 was today

Im a total hypocrite because Im on starnow and have been on various stuff but i was a wannabe so i know a group of big style wannabes when i see them.

I and the rest of us expect wannabes on the show but the fact that its full of people who have been on other tv shows just puts a downer on BB.

Its like its no longer an achievement or a once in a lifetime opportunity to get on BB anymore when there are people in there who have been on 3 reality tv shows already.

I thought after last year BB would be going back to people who wanted the experience seeing as they know they wont get fame from it anymore but the producers have gone out of their way to recruit fame *****s.

[Withano]

I just don't know how they allowed themselves to make this mistake. People were complaining last series because about half the house were wannabees, why would they fill it with 80-90% wannabees this time. Its frustrating, its a good thing they have CBB to fall back on.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by Barker

Unfortunately I think it's down to the lack of diversity in housemates, and the abundance of models and people who have had exposure to celebrity life-style.

^^^ this.

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by Withano

Only way I can see it vastly improving would be by doing an at least a quadruple eviction and replacing the models with relatively normal people.

Even then though the 'towie-like to classic bb-like' character ratio would still be off, its a shame.

ha. im trying to stay hopeful , not seen much of them yet as too much power trip nonsence . im hoping it will start bad and get great but i must admit there's no characters in this one like before. so chances arn't the best. but were see
bb went for too many samey ppl thats for sure. none stand out straight away

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Time to cancel it

Time it had the break it should've been given when channel 4 waved goodbye in 2010.

[James]

The ratings are always bad for the first highlights after the launch, mainly I think, because they've got hardly any new footage to show.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by James

The ratings are always bad for the first highlights after the launch, mainly I think, because they've got hardly any new footage to show.

845k (4.1%) between 9.30pm and 10.30pm (+1: 107k/0.7%). :/

[uniquedude]

For one ratings are always said to be dropping but for once I have to say it could be a two fold thing with quality and scheduling clashes, this year does not have the drama of last years first day aka beanie snatch or Micheal deliberating stirring trouble. Dropping below 1 million halfway through could be dismissed but this early on is quite telling.

[Jake.]

The way people go on though, you'd think every other show averaged 5 million.. football killed pretty much everything last night, My Sisters Keeper had 400k or so less viewers than BB and BBC2 had a million viewers for French and Saunders... Big Brother wasn't the only show to struggle