[Achilles]

Originally Posted by TheElusiveChanteuse

Now you're just putting words in his mouth. All the OP did was post a thread about another heavily-manipulated version of the show and say that compared to other versions, the UK version hasn't changed as much - which is true. He didn't say it hasn't changed at all and he didn't go into the quality of the show like you are. He's simply talking about levels of manipulation. Yes it's manipulated, but be thankful it's not become as manipulated as other versions.

Again, I'm not saying you're wrong in what you're saying but it has nothing to do with this thread.

Why is there no live feed and cartoon characters for housemates instead of having live feed and real people as housemates? That is a MASSIVE difference. The whole format is completely different.

[Marsh.]

I think the decline in BBUK viewership is less about twists and manipulation and more about the selection of housemates dragging the show down and a show naturally losing viewers over such a long time.

I think only soaps retain large viewing numbers after such a long life.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by TheElusiveChanteuse

All the OP did was post a thread about another heavily-manipulated version of the show and say that compared to other versions, the UK version hasn't changed as much - which is true. He didn't say it hasn't changed at all and he didn't go into the quality of the show like you are. He's simply talking about levels of manipulation. Yes it's manipulated, but be thankful it's not become as manipulated as other versions.

The change has been a radical one though. And it wouldn't surprise me if that Save Ashleigh campaign and the petition had something to do with it. They're clearly coming up with ways to annoy viewers here, which is perhaps the most fascinating thing about this show now.

Again, I'm not saying you're wrong in what you're saying but it has nothing to do with this thread.

I think it is. The OP knows that there is a general consensus emerging (despite a few contrarians) that this is beyond ridiculous, and is just trying to inform us that it's even more ridiculous in other countries. Fair enough if it is, but to make these sort of radical changes whilst the show is on and to do so with the intent to get certain results (They knew Marlon was out and they wanted it) is verging on fraudulent imo.

[Calderyon]

Valentina being nominated for eviction against herself.

Producers giving immunities, immunities being handed every week by everyone for what ever reasons and some of them being 3-4 weeks of lenght and the fact that you told that they can see their family every week and see what the public/press think of them etc.
Also Sabrina who arrived at week 12 winning over Gaia, who seems to be the only first day housemate and spending all 161 days in the house, not cool.

What an absolute mess of a series.

[Chuckyegg]

this show on channel 5 is called big brother but it no longer resembles the shows I watched over the years. its a weird self serving media bubble made by media types and starring their mates. Ordinary viewers are no longer invited to come and be a housemate. next year the housemates will be all zzzzlist celebs wearing Pepsi and Wonga t shirts.

[Samm]

IMO are Series is hardly manipulated, people just don't like the change in voting

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

Valentina being nominated for eviction against herself.

Producers giving immunities, immunities being handed every week by everyone for what ever reasons and some of them being 3-4 weeks of lenght and the fact that you told that they can see their family every week and see what the public/press think of them etc.
Also Sabrina who arrived at week 12 winning over Gaia, who seems to be the only first day housemate and spending all 161 days in the house, not cool.

What an absolute mess of a series.

To be fair, I wanted Sabrina to win, her win is exactly like if one of last nights HMs wins (as Sabrina also entered mid way through). But Gaia was my 2nd fave so very happy that after shedloads of HMs, that my Top 2 were the Top 2. Illaria being fave for so long damaged her popularity, she was immune for pretty much the entire series, first time she was up, she was evicted