[jet]

Originally Posted by Josy

I can't believe theres people asking for Helens pass to be taken away yet moaning about last nights twist.

Helens pass being removed would make a complete mockery of the whole 'pass to final' twist.

Because they haven't honored other peoples immunity, why should they honour Helen's? Neither did they stick with Jale being up every week when she got a week off.
Why is it that it's okay to mess with everyone else and everything else and its not a mockery, but Helen's free pass must be sacrosanct?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

Because they haven't honored other peoples immunity, why should they honour Helen's? Neither did they stick with Jale being up every week when she got a week off.
Why is it that it's okay to mess with everyone else and everything else and its not a mockery, but Helen's free pass must be sacrosanct?

I agree

[Josy]

Originally Posted by jet

Because they haven't honored other peoples immunity, why should they honour Helen's? Neither did they stick with Jale being up every week when she got a week off.
Why is it that it's okay to mess with everyone else and everything else and its not a mockery, but Helen's free pass must be sacrosanct?

Helen doesn't have immunity, she has a pass to the final.

Completely different.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

No.

It was part of the twist and it should stay that way otherwise what was the point in them saying she would get to the final?

Helens there for the duration and im glad she has really carried this series.

I honestly think all you people saying take it away would be regretting it the week after when the highlights become more boring than they already are.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

BB have taken immunity away from housemates they clearly stated 'had immunity'...so even it up and take Helens away.

Keep trying, hopefully you'll get your wish on Final night lol

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

No.

It was part of the twist and it should stay that way otherwise what was the point in them saying she would get to the final?

Helens there for the duration and im glad she has really carried this series.

Exactly. What a godawful series it would have been without her!

[jet]

Originally Posted by Josy

Helen doesn't have immunity, she has a pass to the final.

Completely different.

It's the same thing. A pass is immunity. And as you well know, BB do whatever they want to do. Unless Helen has a watertight contract protecting her to the final? I wouldn't like to think she has, so she is as much at their mercy as anyone else. It's not as if the public voted for her pass, is it?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by jet

It's the same thing. A pass is immunity. And as you well know, BB do whatever they want to do. Unless Helen has a watertight contract protecting her to the final? I wouldn't like to think she has, so she is as much at their mercy as anyone else. It's not as if the public voted for her pass, is it?

It isn't the same thing, one grants immunity for a certain period of time and one is a straight pass to the final.

The Power Alliance were immune, they were immune from nominations but then there was a twist and they weren't immune any more.

[Fendertele]

Jale was supposed to be up every-week,until she went.. but when all the boys were up, BB let her off for the week... now tell me if I'm dumb, but Pauline dished out that one to Jale, the same as she gave the pass to Helen...Now people keep banging on when HM's get twists, they say well it's Big Brother, ain't it?, so why can't it be Big Brother where Helen's concerned?...Hm's are scared of her clique, and they are very suppressed by them, look how Mark went grovelling to them, to justify his part in the Power Alliance...What's the worst they can do? shout,be in your face, frighten you etc, send you to Coventry for a few days....Should have worked in some of the factory's in the 70's, this went on, on a daily basis, it's life at it's lowest....But just remember, every dog has it's day...

[jet]

Originally Posted by Josy

It isn't the same thing, one grants immunity for a certain period of time and one is a straight pass to the final.

The Power Alliance were immune, they were immune from nominations but then there was a twist and they weren't immune any more.

So you think Helen's pass is written in stone and the producers are so moralistic that they wouldn't possibly mess with it? Okay then.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by jet

So you think Helen's pass is written in stone and the producers are so moralistic that they wouldn't possibly mess with it? Okay then.

No I don't think any of that so I'm sorry if you somehow read my post to mean that...I mean they shouldn't mess with it, it would make a mockery of the whole point of the pass to the final in the first place.

[arista]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

BB have taken immunity away from housemates they clearly stated 'had immunity'...so even it up and take Helens away.

No its was a Deal at the start

[mrflibble]

Originally Posted by jet

So you think Helen's pass is written in stone and the producers are so moralistic that they wouldn't possibly mess with it? Okay then.

If it was anyone else, I'm sure it would've been messed with weeks ago.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Josy

No I don't think any of that so I'm sorry if you somehow read my post to mean that...I mean they shouldn't mess with it, it would make a mockery of the whole point of the pass to the final in the first place.

Exactly..It is a pass to the final. If they took it off her then it wouldnt be a pass to the final so it would make a mockery of pass to the final.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by JTM45

The only votes Helen will ever be getting from me are the ones (the MANY!) i'll be sending her way when it's time to evict the pustule filled Bog-Beast!

Does it make people feel better calling her such names? I mean ,really people slating her for being foulmouthed etc and there they go doing exactly the same and laughing along with it.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Josy

No I don't think any of that so I'm sorry if you somehow read my post to mean that...I mean they shouldn't mess with it, it would make a mockery of the whole point of the pass to the final in the first place.

So don't you think it makes a mockery of being voted PH and getting immuntiy (by the public) and then fooling the public and being told they are not?
Pauline (not the public) voted Helen and Jale and then Jale gets saved for a week, so why can't Helen lose her pass for one week?
I'm sorry, but I don't see how Helen's pass is considered the only thing to be honored to the letter.

[jet]

Originally Posted by mrflibble

If it was anyone else, I'm sure it would've been messed with weeks ago.

It's already been done. They messed with Jale being up every week. But then she's not Helen, so that's okay.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by jet

So don't you think it makes a mockery of being voted PH and getting immuntiy (by the public) and then fooling the public and being told they are not?
Pauline (not the public) voted Helen and Jale and then Jale gets saved for a week, so why can't Helen lose her pass for one week?
I'm sorry, but I don't see how Helen's pass is considered the only thing to be honored to the letter.

No I don't because they were given immunity but from nominations just not eviction.

The power nearly always comes at a price, voters should have known that.

If Helen loses her pass even if it's only for one week then it isn't a pass to the final is it?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Josy

No I don't because they were given immunity but from nominations just not eviction.

The power nearly always comes at a price, voters should have known that.

If Helen loses her pass even if it's only for one week then it isn't a pass to the final is it?

And if a HM is given immunity from nomination and then they are nominated it isn't immunity from nomination, is it?
And if a HM is given the ordeal of being up for eviction every week and they take it away for one week then it isn't being up for eviction every week, is it?

And why shouldn't Helen's pass of going straight to the final and the power that gives her not come at a price?

There seems to be one rule for Helen and one for everyone else, but I'm finished with this. Talking common sense gets you nowhere around here.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by jet

And if a HM is given immunity from nomination and then they are nominated it isn't immunity from nomination, is it?
And if a HM is given the ordeal of being up for eviction every week and they take it away for one week then it isn't being up for eviction every week, is it?

And why shouldn't Helen's pass of going straight to the final and the power that gives her not come at a price?

There seems to be one rule for Helen and one for everyone else, but I'm finished with this. Talking common sense gets you nowhere around here.

Ashleigh wasn't nominated, she was replaced with a nominee.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Josy

I can't believe theres people asking for Helens pass to be taken away yet moaning about last nights twist.

Helens pass being removed would make a complete mockery of the whole 'pass to final' twist.

It's no more of a mockery than telling people they are immune from eviction this week when they are not... This isn't 'secret and lies'...

[Ellen]

I thought it was immune from nomination not eviction?

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

This isn't 'secret and lies'...

It is - in practice!

[jet]

Originally Posted by Josy

Ashleigh wasn't nominated, she was replaced with a nominee.

It's the same thing. Otherwise she wouldn't be up for eviction, would she? But if people want to suspend their common sense to defend Helen and her sacrosanct pass then what can you do?

[poppsywoppsy]

Helen deserves many of the descriptive names she is called and by keeping her mouth shut or getting the boot does not make her reformed in any sense or purpose.

Who is the real Helen, the one who screams abuse or the one keeping quiet on dire warning. If Helen had been as she is now from day 1, I would have liked her, but she wasn't and I won't.

I have read many things regarding her outside life apart from the footballer and actor and it fills me with annoyance that someone like her with her connections is chosen for BB with the repercussions it could have for people around her.