[HBB1508]

I think we see them "bitching" as really they have nothing else to talk about in the house - no tv or newspapers - so what else is there to talk about except each other.

[Cal.]

Every single female they put in was bitchy and that's why they were evicted. (However, in Zoe's case it was just bad luck at being put up against the underdog (Pav) and the favorite (Chris))

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

Every single female they put in was bitchy and that's why they were evicted. (However, in Zoe's case it was just bad luck at being put up against the underdog (Pav) and the favorite (Chris))

And making an enemy of Tesco shelf stackers.

They have showbiz stories too

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Raph

I believe that when Big Brother objectify women in the first place through casting

Thoughts on this?

Just a small point...Winston, Ash, Marlon, Pav, Steven, all declared themselves ladies men.

If Winston looked like Chris, would he be a favourite? BB can objectify both genders.

But yes, I do agree in part to what you are saying. Women get more slack then men. That is something that is true in all walks of life. Look at the footballers. The woman that slept with Beckham got twice the hate than the man himself.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by kefln

Just a small point...Winston, Ash, Marlon, Pav, Steven, all declared themselves ladies men.

If Winston looked like Chris, would he be a favourite? BB can objectify both genders.

But yes, I do agree in part to what you are saying. Women get more slack then men. That is something that is true in all walks of life. Look at the footballers. The woman that slept with Beckham got twice the hate than the man himself.

A few guys considering themselves ladies men is not nearly equivalent to every girl except Jale/Tamara being a model/singer/sex worker.

I really don't get how some people pretend like C5's portrayal of women isn't completely sexist after the Hazel thing and CBB13

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

A few guys considering themselves ladies men is not nearly equivalent to every girl except Jale/Tamara being a model/singer/sex worker.

I really don't get how some people pretend like C5's portrayal of women isn't completely sexist after the Hazel thing and CBB13

So Winston and Ash being models/actors isn't the same thing?

[Jords]

Attractiveness has to big of a role in a show like BB its pretty ridiculous.

[Macie Lightfoot]

if you don't know the difference between two and all but two, sure.

[Marsh.]

Well it's not really about numbers is it?

BB attracts camp gay male housemates and extrovert exhibitionist women.

Are they also exploiting gay males by never including many lesbians?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well it's not really about numbers is it?

When it's about the overall portrayal of women, yes?

[Marsh.]

Forgetting about the less than flattering portrayal of its male housemates?

The housemates are who they are. You're making it sound as though BB are purposely making out that this is what women are.

BB no more represents women than it does the wider society in general. So in short; bollocks.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Forgetting about the less than flattering portrayal of its male housemates?

The housemates are who they are. You're making it sound as though BB are purposely making out that this is what women are.

BB no more represents women than it does the wider society in general. So in short; bollocks.

Because there isn't an overarching portrayal of the male gender, whereas 90% of female HMs seemingly fit into model or singer or sex worker of sorts. That's a really offensive and in imaginative portrayal of females and it's offensive that especially since the channel move, this show hasn't are the slightest effort to hide it's misogyny. "oh well we didn't show you this but Hazel said she gets turned on by being choked and she led Daley on so she's at fault xx" like...