[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by FlippingEck

I love how the majority of last night's live feed is covered over with bird song, and yet you all heard how vile James was to Gary.. and how horrible Stephanie is... ironic huh?

Yes it was like that on my tv too are you on Virgin ? Sky maybe didn't have the birdsong so thats why folks will be able to state as fact what was said

[Josy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Yes it was like that on my tv too are you on Virgin ? Sky maybe didn't have the birdsong so thats why folks will be able to state as fact what was said

It wasn't just how they were speaking.

It was how some of them walked away from him when he tried to start a conversation. Some of them spoke to him for a few seconds then walked away muttering when they know he can't hear them, it's isolating him and I really don't know how anyone can deny it happened whether you like Gary or not, no one deserves to be treated like that.

[Patricia4]

Chuff you don't have to hear a lot you can watch and the people who he went to talk to didn't want to know him they ignored him or turned their back on him it was very plain to see.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

It wasn't just how they were speaking.

It was how some of them walked away from him when he tried to start a conversation. Some of them spoke to him for a few seconds then walked away muttering when they know he can't hear them, it's isolating him and I really don't know how anyone can deny it happened whether you like Gary or not, no one deserves to be treated like that.

Hes worn the same clothes since he went in there, a few have commented on his hygiene i would walk away too

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Patricia4

Chuff you don't have to hear a lot you can watch and the people who he went to talk to didn't want to know him they ignored him or turned their back on him it was very plain to see.

Sorry Patricia I cannot blame them

[Josy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Hes worn the same clothes since he went in there, a few have commented on his hygiene i would walk away too

He hasn't worn the same clothes since entering, that's not true.

Yeah a few people have mentioned his hygiene but maybe they should mention it to him? he doesn't refuse to get showered if remembered to do it, he has a brain injury and these people need gentle reminding sometimes.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Hes worn the same clothes since he went in there, a few have commented on his hygiene i would walk away too

Tbh it's not very nice of you to justify their isolating behaviour towards him with insults about his clothing and hygiene. Reminds me of school.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

He hasn't worn the same clothes since entering, that's not true.

Yeah a few people have mentioned his hygiene but maybe they should mention it to him? he doesn't refuse to get showered if remembered to do it, he has a brain injury and these people need gentle reminding sometimes.

James did ,and kindly took him to the shower waited for him while the dirty old pratt flashed his bits to the world ,he then put the same clothes back on

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

Tbh it's not very nice of you to justify their isolating behaviour towards him with insults about his clothing and hygiene. Reminds me of school.

I would never choose to sit next to someone who smells, eats like a pig

[Josy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I would never choose to sit next to someone who smells, eats like a pig

Well you could spare a few seconds explaining to them that they should maybe have a shower or a wash.

The intolerance of some people towards a 70 year old man with a brain injury actually disgusts me.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

He hasn't worn the same clothes since entering, that's not true.

Yeah a few people have mentioned his hygiene but maybe they should mention it to him? he doesn't refuse to get showered if remembered to do it, he has a brain injury and these people need gentle reminding sometimes.

But when someone did mention his hygiene to him and told him some people might be avoiding him because he hadn't showered in a week, he was labelled as the devil incarnated and was apparently spiteful when he did so

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

But when someone did mention his hygiene to him and told him some people might be avoiding him because he hadn't showered in a week, he was labelled as the devil incarnated and was apparently spiteful when he did so

Well that's not really true is it?

A lot of comments on here were saying yeah James was right to tell him he needed to shower, and I agree.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

Well that's not really true is it?

A lot of comments on here were saying yeah James was right to tell him he needed to shower, and I agree.

But it is true though, a lot of people said he was only saying it to be spiteful, that he wasn't saying it to help Gary, but only to try and embarrass him.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

But it is true though, a lot of people said he was only saying it to be spiteful, that he wasn't saying it to help Gary, but only to try and embarrass him.

I think that was more about James's attitude in general towards Gary. He is very patronising and condescending, and said it mid conversation when Gary was confiding in him about Stephanie hating him.

I believed it was right of James to mention it to Gary, it's just the way he does things that really rubs me up the wrong way. He just shows little compassion and talks at people lecture-style imo. Not sure if that's why others were annoyed with James talking to Gary about showering but it was for me personally.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

I think that was more about James's attitude in general towards Gary. He is very patronising and condescending, and said it mid conversation when Gary was confiding in him about Stephanie hating him.

I believed it was right of James to mention it to Gary, it's just the way he does things that really rubs me up the wrong way. He just shows little compassion and talks at people lecture-style imo. Not sure if that's why others were annoyed with James talking to Gary about showering but it was for me personally.

Gary asked him why Stephanie didn't like him, one of the reasons why Stephanie doesn't like him is that she's a germaphobe and Gary doesn't look after his hygiene very well, he only sounded patronizing when he was saying it because he has to speak slowly and clearly for Gary to be able to understand him, which has been acknowledged as many people on here, so i genuinely don't understand why people are saying James was in the wrong in that situation

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I would never choose to sit next to someone who smells, eats like a pig

One day it might be you that gets a brain injury and you would be the one sat there having forgotten to shower and eating like a pig. You would soon complain.

Why do some people parade their lack of empathy so proudly?

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Gary asked him why Stephanie didn't like him, one of the reasons why Stephanie doesn't like him is that she's a germaphobe and Gary doesn't look after his hygiene very well, he only sounded patronizing when he was saying it because he has to speak slowly and clearly for Gary to be able to understand him, which has been acknowledged as many people on here, so i genuinely don't understand why people are saying James was in the wrong in that situation

Yet this supposed "Germophobe" thought that Lauren pissing in the pool was funny.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Yet this supposed "Germophobe" thought that Lauren pissing in the pool was funny.

Was she in the pool with her when she did it though? There's a big difference

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Was she in the pool with her when she did it though? There's a big difference

Where is the difference?

Pissing in the pool just shows Lauren up as a total sket and far more unhygienic than Gary.

Stephanie doesn't care really about Gary's hygiene. It is just a pathetic school yard way of bullying him. If Gary pissed in the pool we would never hear the end of it, simply because it is Gary.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Where is the difference?

Pissing in the pool just shows Lauren up as a total sket and far more unhygienic than Gary.

Stephanie doesn't care really about Gary's hygiene. It is just a pathetic school yard way of bullying him. If Gary pissed in the pool we would never hear the end of it, simply because it is Gary.

I have suspicions about this too but we can't be sure I suppose.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Where is the difference?

Pissing in the pool just shows Lauren up as a total sket and far more unhygienic than Gary.

Stephanie doesn't care really about Gary's hygiene. It is just a pathetic school yard way of bullying him. If Gary pissed in the pool we would never hear the end of it, simply because it is Gary.

No it doesn't.. If someone urinates in a pool (it shouldn't be done anyway because it's gross, but it happens) it gets washed away and the water is sterile anyway because of the chlorine.. Gary didn't wash for nearly 7 days, nor does he flush the toilet after himself, that is far more unhygienic.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Where is the difference?

Pissing in the pool just shows Lauren up as a total sket and far more unhygienic than Gary.

Stephanie doesn't care really about Gary's hygiene. It is just a pathetic school yard way of bullying him. If Gary pissed in the pool we would never hear the end of it, simply because it is Gary.

No ones said it was ok for Lauren to pee in the pool, and when did Stephanie tell you she had no problem with Buseys hygiene ?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

One day it might be you that gets a brain injury and you would be the one sat there having forgotten to shower and eating like a pig. You would soon complain.

Why do some people parade their lack of empathy so proudly?

He should have stayed at home then ,he's in there to be judged the same as everyone else

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

No ones said it was ok for Lauren to pee in the pool, and when did Stephanie tell you she had no problem with Buseys hygiene ?

When Lauren said about peeing in the pool Stephanie laughed. That is what tells me that she doesn't really have an issue with bad hygiene.

She only pretends to when it involves someone that her group are bullying.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

He should have stayed at home then ,he's in there to be judged the same as everyone else

You want to judge people on their disabilities?