[kistar]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I know many people at my workplace that are single parents..they work. They don't sit at home relying on handouts. It's all too easy for some... It's great that this country supports single parents etc...some just try hard to support themselves rather than take take take.
My son will pass those ethics on to his children...that's what being a good father/mother is. Laziness breeds laziness... If you watched BS two parents discouraged their daughter from taking a job because it paid more to get welfare. I had such respect for a 16 year old girl who went against their wishes to work and earn her own money for her own self esteem and pride.
It's nobody's fault but the government for installing this mentality...but my admiration goes out to my son and others who have the pride to earn a living and demonstrate good ethics to others and children.

So I sat at home and took handouts while I home schooled 2 children , if it wasn't for the benefit system I couldnt have done that, so where does that put me?
My children have friends in 5 bed exec housing land and also in benefit street and the greatest lesson I have ever taught them is dont judge people on where they live or what they look like.Great people come from all walks of life and circumstances period.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I know many people at my workplace that are single parents..they work. They don't sit at home relying on handouts. It's all too easy for some... It's great that this country supports single parents etc...some just try hard to support themselves rather than take take take.
My son will pass those ethics on to his children...that's what being a good father/mother is. Laziness breeds laziness... If you watched BS two parents discouraged their daughter from taking a job because it paid more to get welfare. I had such respect for a 16 year old girl who went against their wishes to work and earn her own money for her own self esteem and pride.
It's nobody's fault but the government for installing this mentality...but my admiration goes out to my son and others who have the pride to earn a living and demonstrate good ethics to others and children.

exactly, bring kids up in workless families is abuse in a different way. abuse of ambition , work ethic and aspiration

[the truth]

Originally Posted by kistar

So I sat at home and took handouts while I home schooled 2 children , if it wasn't for the benefit system I couldnt have done that, so where does that put me?
My children have friends in 5 bec exec land and also in benefit street and the greatest lesson I have ever taught them is dont judge people on where they live or what they look like.Great people come from all walks of life and circumstances period.

yes yet a person like dee is more judgemental than a hollywood superstar so where does that fit in the great british class cliches?

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by kistar

I've been on benefits , I now live in the real world have my own business drive a Merc and live in a gated community , I say again maybe he is in the wrong job.

Well good for you...you of all people then shouldn't make stupid comments like 'he must be in the wrong job'...we all have to start somewhere. With his work ethic he will hopefully and deservedly be in your position one day. It's not all about 'having a Merc' and 'living in a gated community'...it's about pride and work ethic..so you really shouldn't mock.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by the truth

yes yet a person like dee is more judgemental than a hollywood superstar so where does that fit in the great british class cliches?

My reply was to rusticgals post .

[the truth]

Originally Posted by kistar

My reply was to rusticgals post .

my post was to you

[kistar]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Well good for you...you of all people then shouldn't make stupid comments like 'he must be in the wrong job'...we all have to start somewhere. With his work ethic he will hopefully and deservedly be in your position one day. It's not all about 'having a Merc' and 'living in a gated community'...it's about pride and work ethic..so you really shouldn't mock.

I wasn't mocking I was mearly suggesting if he is working all hours and still struggles to make ends meet something is wrong.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by kistar

My reply was to rusticgals post .

It's a forum...not a private convo. If Truth supports my debate then he is free to do so.

Truth speaks the truth...

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by the truth

yes yet a person like dee is more judgemental than a hollywood superstar so where does that fit in the great british class cliches?

It doesnt I am afraid, maybe deep down she is jealous? She certainly hates Gary and it will be shown more over the next few days I am sure. Her face just makes me cringe she looks as though she is in judgement of all things out of her reach. What I cannot understand is, how was she asked to go into CELEBRITY Big Brother! She is playing the martyr good and proper and whoever said that she befriended all to avoid nominations, was correct. I wonder if Gary will nominate her on Friday if he is still in? I dont think he will really tbh.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by kistar

I wasn't mocking I was mearly suggesting if he is working all hours and still struggles to make ends meet something is wrong.

Are you in the real world?...it's really tough for youngsters today. Companies expect people to work for pennies!!!.. Why do you think so many youngsters are still living with mum and dad?...
Perhaps you don't see the world from your gated community.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

It's a forum...not a private convo. If Truth supports my debate then he is free to do so.

Truth speaks the truth...

Dont forget the U (you) in the centre of T R U T H, we are all our own truths because we all have our own feelings.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

It's a forum...not a private convo. If Truth supports my debate then he is free to do so.

Truth speaks the truth...

Certainly speaks something and it rhymes with pit.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Certainly speaks something and it rhymes with pit.

duly reported

[kistar]

Originally Posted by the truth

my post was to you

I know but it's a 3 way conversation , rusticgal says that in her opinion great work ethics are a good example to set for your children , I reply with in my opinion teaching children to not judge based on circumstances is important and you reply with Dee is the most judgemental of them all ....

I'm not saying Dee is perfect Im not saying I even like her however calling her scum just because she was on benefits is ridiculous.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

duly reported

Love you too babe.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by kistar

I know but it's a 3 way conversation , rusticgal says that in her opinion great work ethics are a good example to set for your children , I reply with in my opinion teaching children to not judge based on circumstances is important and you reply with Dee is the most judgemental of them all ....

I'm not saying Dee is perfect Im not saying I even like her however calling her scum just because she was on benefits is ridiculous.

no said shes scum just because shes on benefits, why are you exxagerrating other peoples points....shes scum for a multitude of reasons, shes a bully, shes ageist, possibly sexist, lazy, workshy, a thief, shes abusive, shes threatening violence on people including a deaf old man, shes also in a celebrity show yet shes not a celebrity, shes only famous because she chose to be a lazy chain smoking lard ass on tv

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

possibly sexist

So true. I reckon she hates men, the fat dyke.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Are you in the real world?...it's really tough for youngsters today. Companies expect people to work for pennies!!!.. Why do you think so many youngsters are still living with mum and dad?...
Perhaps you don't see the world from your gated community.

I've been on benefits remember , I worked very hard and stil do so yes I know exactly what its like in the real world. If he wants career advice I charge Ł100 an hour.

[Marsh.]

Did she just diss your gates!

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Did she just diss your gates!

I know how ...... Gate ist !love my gates

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Did she just diss your gates!

You're such a stirrer, I love it

[kistar]

Originally Posted by the truth

no said shes scum just because shes on benefits, why are you exxagerrating other peoples points....shes scum for a multitude of reasons, shes a bully, shes ageist, possibly sexist, lazy, workshy, a thief, shes abusive, shes threatening violence on people including a deaf old man, shes also in a celebrity show yet shes not a celebrity, shes only famous because she chose to be a lazy chain smoking lard ass on tv

I think we both know she has been referred to as scum , I don't need to exaggerate anyone's points they generally do it themselves .. see above

[kistar]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

You're such a stirrer, I love it

[Marsh.]

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Smashed it , high five !