[Crimson Dynamo]

Religion is very dangerous

Just look at the latest crap to come from the boss of the catholics (you know the pope that everyone is falling over themselves to say is a good pope)

http://time.com/3674155/pope-francis...bbits-comment/

6 millions turned up to hear his bronze age views in the Philippines

"The Philippine’s Catholic hierarchy has fought long and hard to restrict access to prophylactics. Over the last few decades as most countries embraced family planning, the Philippines has moved in the opposite direction, discouraging the use of contraception and prohibiting abortion under any circumstance. They cast condom use as anti-Catholic and anti-Filipino, insisting that couples ought to use “natural methods.”


sickening

[Marsh.]

Which schools are these that are apparently teaching children to believe in God?

I went to a Catholic school and even they did nothing of the sort.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Which schools are these that are apparently teaching children to believe in God?

I went to a Catholic school and even they did nothing of the sort.

My friend stephen went to a catholic school and they taught him that every time he "sinned" a black mark was put on his heart, too many and he would die and only by confessing his sins would "god" remove them

he was also abused by priests


way to go religious school

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

My friend stephen went to a catholic school and they taught him that every time he "sinned" a black mark was put on his heart, too many and he would die and only by confessing his sins would "god" remove them

he was also abused by priests


way to go religious school

His experience was probably in the minority..

I went to a Christian school and like Marsh, they never tried to teach to believe in God. There was 1 girl who wouldn't come to church with us and the school was completely accepting of that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dollface

His experience was probably in the minority..

I went to a Christian school and like Marsh, they never tried to teach to believe in God. There was 1 girl who wouldn't come to church with us and the school was completely accepting of that.

what do you think the raison d'etre of faith schools is ?

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what do you think the raison d'etre of faith schools is ?

the what of the what?

ohhh --googled

& to be honest, i don't know

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

My friend stephen went to a catholic school and they taught him that every time he "sinned" a black mark was put on his heart, too many and he would die and only by confessing his sins would "god" remove them

he was also abused by priests


way to go religious school

When was this? Sounds like a very extreme situation and not one representative of everything.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

When was this? Sounds like a very extreme situation and not one representative of everything.

Only an individual teacher who was doo-lally

[Kizzy]

All hail betty!!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

All hail betty!!

she, who shall not be named

[Ramsay]

Yes, kill it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Ramsay

Yes, kill it.

[smudgie]

Pretty simple really.
If people don't want religion then the places of worship will shut down due to not getting used, so people vote with their feet and bums on seats.

The school my kids went to taught them that their were different religions but did not preach any of them.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Pretty simple really.
If people don't want religion then the places of worship will shut down due to not getting used, so people vote with their feet and bums on seats.

The school my kids went to taught them that their were different religions but did not preach any of them.

Superb point Smudgie.

[AnnieK]

There will always be religion....it needs to be taught in schools in the hope that kids listen and learn the more tolerant to those of different faiths surely. If it is taken out of schools kids will only learn their parents faiths and beliefs and believe that anything else is wrong?

[Josy]

If there ever comes a time when there is no religion there will be something else to take it's place and attempt to control the masses.

That said I'm of the opinion that if people want to have a faith then that's fair enough, if people don't then that's fair enough too it's when people start wanting a say about the other persons choices that's when the trouble starts.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Josy

If there ever comes a time when there is no religion there will be something else to take it's place and attempt to control the masses.

That said I'm of the opinion that if people want to have a faith then that's fair enough, if people don't then that's fair enough too it's when people start wanting a say about the other persons choices that's when the trouble starts.

A well written post Josy, and the section which I have emboldened is exactly what is being proposed by some on here.

Livia absolutely nails it when she advocates teaching children about all religions without ramming any particular one down their throats. It is only warped adults who warp children's minds and in that perverse practice, ignorance is a far more more lethal weapon than any education.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Josy

If there ever comes a time when there is no religion there will be something else to take it's place and attempt to control the masses.

That said I'm of the opinion that if people want to have a faith then that's fair enough, if people don't then that's fair enough too it's when people start wanting a say about the other persons choices that's when the trouble starts.

I agree Josy.
Down to personal choice, we should all have the choice to believe or not.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Josy

If there ever comes a time when there is no religion there will be something else to take it's place and attempt to control the masses.

That said I'm of the opinion that if people want to have a faith then that's fair enough, if people don't then that's fair enough too it's when people start wanting a say about the other persons choices that's when the trouble starts.

or teaching kids that it is real and factual

yes. I agree

[user104658]

People should be free to believe in literally anything they want to believe in, but yes - as I said on another thread today - keep it out of government. Not everyone believes the same and not everyone believes at all, and frankly, for those of us who don't follow any organised religion, having our world leaders bleat on about what are (to us) fictional characters and fairytales becomes very quickly ridiculous. Even people who are religious must appreciate that, surely? Imagine DC stood up tomorrow and in all seriousness announced that we must follow the charge of Ares and defeat our enemies in the name of the king of the gods - Zeus. What would you be thinking?

[InOne]

Kids need to be taught about Religion so they just don't swallow what their parents and family tell them. If none of it was taught in school and they went home and only got their families view they'd grow up very narrow minded indeed.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by InOne

Kids need to be taught about Religion so they just don't swallow what their parents and family tell them. If none of it was taught in school and they went home and only got their families view they'd grow up very narrow minded indeed.

Indeed it needs to be taught that it was a product of an age when many of the answers we have today were not around, that it is fictitious and that we do not need it.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Indeed it needs to be taught that it was a product of an age when many of the answers we have today were not around, that it is fictitious and that we do not need it.

Yep. Get 'em questioning young.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by InOne

Kids need to be taught about Religion so they just don't swallow what their parents and family tell them. If none of it was taught in school and they went home and only got their families view they'd grow up very narrow minded indeed.

Well said and very true.