[mizzy25]

I prefer Jade to Eileen I cant stand the stupid faces shes pulls and the fact she constantly talks about her age, she is old (ish) ffs shes 50/51 im 48 and Im old lol

[smiley55]

eileen made it look like she was innocent in that conversation, she wasnt! hm are begining to see her for what she is. house wolud be better without her.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Sure Jade is a bit full of herself and has a whiny voice but the amount of hate towards her from certain HMs and the BOTS mob is just ridiculous.

Ok so she bitched about the twins during her 'noms talk' with Nick (nothing unusual - everyone talks about everyone in there right?) - but they haven't stopped bitching about HER ever since. And it's FAR more than she ever said about them - is that not worse than Jade?

Seems like twins and Eileen have been waiting for a moment to pounce on Jade and her 'noms talk' punishment gave them all the excuse they needed.

Since then it's been open season and it's suddenly now 'ok' for everyone to hate Jade.

Then you get the BOTS crowd join in. It's horrible to watch. I love BB but i hate it when everyone gangs up on a HM without really thinking it through.

When you break it down, Eileen is much more poisonous than Jade. Jade says what she thinks and leaves it there, she's in her own bubble and is not out to influence people.

But Eileen on the other hand tries very, very hard to rally troops around her, to turn people's minds into hating whoever SHE hates - and she does it very cleverly by hiding her bitching in a smile - or by turning on the tears "oh i'm so upset by what Jade/Kieron said etc".

This is classic bitch tactics - using tears to get sympathy and attention and then dropping those little poisonous seeds to make others hate the people who 'hurt' you.

Linda Nolan did the same thing against Jim for example.

Plus - look how Eileen LIED to Aaron about Jade making the first comment after they nominated in the DR. How sneaky is she???

Eileen came out with the 'my first one was easy comment' - clearly meaning Jade. Then when Jade defended against it saying hers was a walk in the park too, Eileen is now acting 'so upset' by Jade's comment.

But EILEEN FIRED THE FIRST SHOT !

I'm no great Jade fan but Eileen is proper devious and is subtly poisoning HMs much like Pauline did against Jale/Chris etc last year. (it's not an 'older woman' thing, it's just a similar tactic they both have of sugar-coating the poison pellets.)

Jade's annoying in many ways but she's not sneaky. Eileen is.

GET EILEEN OUT !

Very well thought out and laid out post dog. And I totally agree

[crazycolaist]

I like Jade but aaron lied about what was said so Aaron should get out. Eileen vs Jade could be the new Rylan vs Speidi war haha. I respect Eileen & Jade the same to be fair both very intelligent people. I get her way of relationships (Its huge & pretty accepted in the gay world) & Eileen is very creative and artistic & If we had more actual women like both of them then the world would be a greater place because I mean look at Sarah, Such a bad aspect for woman in terms of dignity & being a good human being let alone civillian of the world nor housemate of the BBUK house. You get me?

[susie q]

Even without Eileens comments or views, I would still want Jade out. Personally Im completely bored with her attention seeking/ego tripping behaviour, and dont even get me started on the polyamorous malarky. She really is a pale imitation of far superior bb divas,
like Gina, Deanna, Ashleigh and of course Noirin. So no matter what Eileen or any other housemate says, for me its still get JADE OUT.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by susie q

Even without Eileens comments or views, I would still want Jade out. Personally Im completely bored with her attention seeking/ego tripping behaviour, and dont even get me started on the polyamorous malarky. She really is a pale imitation of far superior bb divas,
like Gina, Deanna, Ashleigh and of course Noirin. So no matter what Eileen or any other housemate says, for me its still get JADE OUT.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by susie q

dont even get me started on the polyamorous malarky.

Isn't that just a fancy way of saying she doesn't do relationships and likes to sleep with whoever she wants?

Cristian said he was a "ladies-man" and Danny said that his ideal night out is getting drunk with the lads and bringing women back to the hotel. Surely that's the same thing?

I can't remember which night, but early on a few of the lads sat around the pictures of the HM's talking about which one they could work on. And that if they got attention from HM X, then HM Y would come running.

Looks to me like a lot of the 20 somethings are acting like 20 somethings.

[kefln]

I don't think anyone has really done anything in the house to be branded a "liar", to receive boos or be openly disliked.

They are all pretty tame. Cracks are appearing and there have been a few tiffs, but its all petty stuff.

Cristian seems to have the attention of a goldfish and seems to get upset about little or nothing. Danny, Harriet and Sarah seem to be hot heads, but not offensively so. And Jack got all upset and ranty because he wasn't picked by Jade to enjoy the food on Friday. Thats about it.

All small stuff.

[sungrass]

Eileen - what more is she going to offer? She is not interesting. She does not inspire debate about anything rather than her age. She is really quite boring. So is Danny.

Jade - awful person - but interesting. Not only that but the reaction in the house if she stays would be brilliant.

Also Harriet is brewing with Joel - these are potential interesting things - why do the public always want to get rid of the people who are fighters/stand their ground, have a bit of spark? Aaron is weird. I ve never met anyone like him - thats why to me he is interesting to watch.

Eileen is bland. She has had her time - thats all she has

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by sungrass

Eileen - what more is she going to offer? She is not interesting. She does not inspire debate about anything rather than her age. She is really quite boring. So is Danny.

Jade - awful person - but interesting. Not only that but the reaction in the house if she stays would be brilliant.

Also Harriet is brewing with Joel - these are potential interesting things - why do the public always want to get rid of the people who are fighters/stand their ground, have a bit of spark? Aaron is weird. I ve never met anyone like him - thats why to me he is interesting to watch.

Eileen is bland. She has had her time - thats all she has

If you are saying evict Eileen because you think she is bland then the likes of Sarah & Danny should go too. They have not done anything of note yet.
Jade has gone for Eileen since day one for no real reason. I would like Jade to stay only because I think it will bring more interesting arguments. But Jade is not a nice person. I have yet to see anything nasty about Eileen.

[sungrass]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

If you are saying evict Eileen because you think she is bland then the likes of Sarah & Danny should go too. They have not done anything of note yet.
Jade has gone for Eileen since day one for no real reason. I would like Jade to stay only because I think it will bring more interesting arguments. But Jade is not a nice person. I have yet to see anything nasty about Eileen.

Yeah of the ones to go - even though they are nice people

Its Kieran, Danny and Eileen.

Sarah is charismatic/interesting.

Kieran/Danny/Eileen - they are too normal/boring.


Its not about 'nice people winning' for me anymore.
I prefer people to win that are entertaining/interesting because otherwise the show is excruciatingly boring to watch - I am over the tasks and the twists. I wish it would stick to normal format - and bring in some comedy.

Im not saying I want nasty people to win - the truth is they are all decent people this year - they are all nice - ESPECIALLY compared to last year -

So when it comes down to it - it has to be decided on an entertainment value this year.

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by sungrass

Yeah of the ones to go - even though they are nice people

Its Kieran, Danny and Eileen.

Sarah is charismatic/interesting.

Kieran/Danny/Eileen - they are too normal/boring.


Its not about 'nice people winning' for me anymore.
I prefer people to win that are entertaining/interesting because otherwise the show is excruciatingly boring to watch - I am over the tasks and the twists. I wish it would stick to normal format - and bring in some comedy.

Im not saying I want nasty people to win - the truth is they are all decent people this year - they are all nice - ESPECIALLY compared to last year -

So when it comes down to it - it has to be decided on an entertainment value this year.

Agreed. I want the interesting HM's to stay until the final THEN watch the look on their face when they don't win

[JTM45]

Jade isn't 'nice' nor is Harriet!!!!

You contradict yourself!

[Robodog]

When Pauline was in the house last year, most of the HMs thought she was this wise, warm mother figure. But she used that to her advantage, gathering her family/troops around her and very subtly turning them against her enemies (Jale, Chris etc). We on the outside could see through it and the only HM on the IN-side who could see through it too was Chris (which is why he nominated her when he was the power HM)

Eileen has a very similar tactic in the house. The way she smiles, acts innocent, acts hurt and then when she has her audience - bang - she drops the poison seeds in the minds of her listeners.

She's done it about Jade and Kieron.

It's not an age thing - but her and Pauline have that very same tactic. I see it in people in 'real life' all the time in offices, in families, in schools etc.

That kind of person is toxic to a group dynamic. But the majority don't realise it until that toxic person is removed.

Last year when Pauline was evicted, suddenly the whole house opened up and individuals became more relaxed and more able to express themselves without feeling the shadow of Pauline's judgment hanging over them.

The same thing will happen when Eileen is evicted (though Pauline was worse to be fair).

[Heaven = Winner]

Originally Posted by Robodog

GET EILEEN OUT !

Absolutely not.

[Amy Jade]

I like em both, they're providing entertainment.

I want non entities like Chloe, Kieran, Danny and Jole out first