[bots]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Or they just discovered Simon saying one thing to a persons face and another in the diary room and challenged him on it. I'd take your own advice on throwing the word about too often.

You didnt watch it did you? They were all aligned togerher, taking turns to have pot shots at him, egging each other on. That is pack mentality.

If you are going to constructively comment on the forum, at least watch the program

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by Josy

Marc the only one speaking up when all the other housemates were standing round Simon having a dig

It was good to see Marc speaking up when all the HM's getting on at Simon.

[Lister of Smeg]

Absolute Legend that Marc

[Amy Jade]

What a hero he is you know apart from the lewd comments and name calling and threats. Top bloke.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

What a hero he is you know apart from the lewd comments and name calling and threats. Top bloke.

Glad you can see him for the good housemate he is.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Josy

Glad you can see him for the good housemate he is.

Nah plants don't do it for me sorry

[the_answers]

Think Danny's comment was code for

"We're all in a cosy group here, we don't like being challenged and we'll turn on individuals as 1 group if they do."

Still, I don't really see it as "victim".
Simon's intentions are admirable he just isn't strong enough.

If BB want to shake the house up, task team need to think outside the box just as much as new HMs thrown in to take them on.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by the_answers

Think Danny's comment was code for

"We're all in a cosy group here, we don't like being challenged and we'll turn on individuals as 1 group if they do."

Still, I don't really see it as "victim".
Simon's intentions are admirable he just isn't strong enough.

What is admirable about saying one thing to a persons face and then going to the diary room and saying the exact opposite?

[the_answers]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

What is admirable about saying one thing to a persons face and then going to the diary room and saying the exact opposite?

I think many have misunderstood it all.

Way I see it, Simon wanted Chloe to win, thought she would (maybe with his house training help) and the "deserve" thing was his way of saying she deserved to win because she was young, had her life ahead of her etc.

For me, that doesn't mean he's wrong to say she's wasn't doing enough to win at the moment.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by the_answers

I think many have misunderstood it all.

Way I see it, Simon wanted Chloe to win, thought she would (maybe with his house training help) and the "deserve" thing was his way of saying she deserved to win because she was young, had her life ahead of her etc.

For me, that doesn't mean he's wrong to say she's wasn't doing enough to win at the moment.

His problem is that he's using two sets of criteria to judge them. One as a housemate (what sort of a person are they?) and one as a viewer (how entertaining are they?) and he switches between the two.

[the_answers]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

His problem is that he's using two sets of criteria to judge them. One as a housemate (what sort of a person are they?) and one as a viewer (how entertaining are they?) and he switches between the two.

Think you've hit the nail on the head really.

Is it a problem or only HIS though ?

Surely even the others know entertainment is a big part of it.
Think how they reacted at Simon in front of the camera proves they do.
Any co-incidence the most criticized (or up for eviction) are making the most noise ?

Many want to "stand up to someone" being right (and then more popular).
e.g. Danny tops the list of suspects.

Now maybe they ARE genuinely hacked off.
But see it as little co-incidence Chloe has suddenly come out of her shell.

Even if you just think "what sort of a person are they?"
You can perhaps mistakenly take the way people act inside the house as a true reflection of what they're really like.
They're all acting at times as much as they're often being themselves.

But yes, I DO want them to entertain me !
Having an argument is maybe just the easiest less imaginative option.

[Vicky.]

I'm glad someone stood up for Simon tbh. Just seeing it on screen...all of the HMs standing in a line glaring at him...it was horrid.

He never even said anything bad about Chloe in the DR for such a fuss to be made. And LOL at them all making out they are exactly the same in the DR as outside of it

[Josy]

I forgot to add, did Simon lie? Chloe doesn't deserve to win anyway

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Josy

I forgot to add, did Simon lie? Chloe doesn't deserve to win anyway

I'm quite sure Producer's Pet #2 (Marc) will win after their Pet #1 (Helen) won last year

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

I'm quite sure Producer's Pet #2 (Marc) will win after their Pet #1 (Helen) won last year

Doubt it

[BB1984]

The old HM's are weary of the new ones & it does seem like a divide is happening in the house. I have a feeling Simon & Mark will be nominated next week due to the original group sticking together.
Which would be a shame as they are at least creating geniune reactions/conflicts with the HM's

[rionablue]

Marc is an awful housemate in every meaning of the word. Insulting, vulgar and I genuinely think he is trying to use Sam as she (the fool) seems to be falling for him. I don't like him and never will. Simon and he will hopefully be out next week. Using the word fat about a housemate who has struggled with her weight is HORRENDOUS even if only said in jest. He needs to think of peoples feelings and cop on. I didn't enjoy his fake display of his so called mahood either. Probably one of my most despised housemate ever

[GypsyGoth]

It was nice of Marc to stand up for Simon, I think Marc mentioned that one of his best qualities is his loyalty.

And without Marc the show would be very different. I can understand people not liking him, he does seem like the housemate from hell. But I think he's great fun in there, he really livens the place up.

[the truth]

marc has taken over the show....I don't particularly like the bloke mind...an exhausting attention seeking with major issues and a foul tongue.. on the other hand he has made me laugh he has entertained me and he does his intimidation alone not as part of a pack

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by the truth

marc has taken over the show....I don't particularly like the bloke mind...an exhausting attention seeking with major issues and a foul tongue.. on the other hand he has made me laugh he has entertained me and he does his intimidation alone not as part of a pack

Of course he does it alone, he wouldn't be getting all the attention otherwise.

[JayBlaze]

For someone who has stopped watching the show, you seem to know a lot about what happened