[Livia]

Originally Posted by Rob!

I just don't think the freedom of speech argument can be used to defend bigotry, sorry.

Apologies Rob, I deleted my post because I assumed you were replying to me, but you said it was a "sweeping statement".

[Rob!]

It's just a sweeping statement.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Rob!

It's just a sweeping statement.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Rob!

It's just a sweeping statement.

I know LT is not homophobic or Transphobic, but he 'kids' a lot jokingly, and I think his humour has been misunderstood Rob.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I know LT is not homophobic or Transphobic, but he 'kids' a lot jokingly, and I think his humour has been misunderstood Rob.

I think it's inappropriate to 'kid' about being transphobic when there are huge amounts of hate crime towards transpeople.

The average person has a 1 in 18,000 chance of being murdered.

For transgender people that is 1 in 12. If you also happen to be black, then it's 1 in 8.

It's not funny, it's not wise, and it's not appropriate.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

I think it's inappropriate to 'kid' about being transphobic when there are huge amounts of hate crime towards transpeople.

The average person has a 1 in 18,000 chance of being murdered.

For transgender people that is 1 in 12. If you also happen to be black, then it's 1 in 8.

It's not funny, it's not wise, and it's not appropriate.

I'm sure that LT can - and will - answer for himself, but I will explain what I meant in the post you've quoted and taken me to task for, because you have misunderstood it.

I did not mean that LT was kidding about the actual transphobic comment, but was gently teasing Will about getting so wound up about what some knobhead said AND where they he had said it. At least that is how I perceived LT's comments.

It was LT more than anyone else on here who actually condemned the knobhead who made the Transphobic comment, in fact he 'ripped him apart' by saying that he probably: 'had a dildo stuck up him and was wanking himself off' so don't worry about it Will' - or words to that effect.

Please refrain from trying to make out that I have any Homophobia, Transphobia, Xenophobia or any other kind of phobia - or that I support anyone who has them, because I don't.

I was marching with Gays and fighting for their rights before you were even born, and the only thing I may be guilty of which you continue to misunderstand - is having a sense of perspective AND a sense of humour.

[arista]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

I think it's inappropriate to 'kid' about being transphobic when there are huge amounts of hate crime towards transpeople.

The average person has a 1 in 18,000 chance of being murdered.

For transgender people that is 1 in 12. If you also happen to be black, then it's 1 in 8.

It's not funny, it's not wise, and it's not appropriate.

Yes but you are talking about of your own
personal view

Not a TIBB view



Life In The Fast Lane

[arista]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I know LT is not homophobic or Transphobic, but he 'kids' a lot jokingly, and I think his humour has been misunderstood Rob.

how nice

[Lostie!]

I'm all for freedom of speech but if someone is just being hateful and offensive, they deserve to be called out. Anyone with half a brain cell (and who doesn't actually wish to insult somebody) would be able to state their view in a much more mature way.

[Will.]

IMO racism and homophobia/transphobia etc. is never acceptable, it's called MORAL VALUES.

[Ninastar]

Please tell me they are not doing a Stacey branning transgender storyline.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Chaos

Please tell me they are not doing a Stacey branning transgender storyline.

I don't think it was a before and after photo

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Chaos

Please tell me they are not doing a Stacey branning transgender storyline.

No. She becomes friends with the new transgender character.

[Will.]

Has there ever been a transgender cross over storyline, as in a character i.e Stacey Branning wanted to have transgender surgery?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Will1999

Has there ever been a transgender cross over storyline, as in a character i.e Stacey Branning wanted to have transgender surgery?

Not in Eastenders but Hayley in Corrie came in as a pre-op and went to Amsterdam or something for the surgery.

[Will.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Not in Eastenders but Hayley in Corrie came in as a pre-op and went to Amsterdam or something for the surgery.

oh ok, so theres was another actor who played her in the beginning?

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Will1999

oh ok, so theres was another actor who played her in the beginning?

No, she came in post op.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Rob!

No, she came in post op.

She didn't.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Will1999

oh ok, so theres was another actor who played her in the beginning?

No, the same non-transgender actress.

[Will.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No, the same non-transgender actress.

Oh ok, thanks.

[Ninastar]

Okay cause I was gonna say, what the actual ****.

[Rob!]

I'm sure Hollyoaks has done it at some point or somebody deciding they wanted to become a sandwich or something.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Rob!

I'm sure Hollyoaks has done it at some point or somebody deciding they wanted to become a sandwich or something.

[Rob!]

I'm aware of LT's wind up sense of humour (now ).


It's fine Livia, I just hate it when someone preaches that they have the freedom of speech when it's such a horrid remark like Will posted. Saying that a picture of a transsexual makes you sick, when that person probably wouldn't even have realised if it hadn't been pointed out to them isn't freedom of speech. It's a comment meant to offend and hurt.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Rob!

I'm aware of LT's wind up sense of humour (now ).


It's fine Livia, I just hate it when someone preaches that they have the freedom of speech when it's such a horrid remark like Will posted. Saying that a picture of a transsexual makes you sick, when that person probably wouldn't even have realised if it hadn't been pointed out to them isn't freedom of speech. It's a comment meant to offend and hurt.

Yeah - The original 'makes me sick' comment is purely despicable.