[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Donald Trump says invasion of Iraq was the 'worst decision in US history' and turned the Arab nation into the 'Harvard of terrorism'

Didn't think I'd ever agree with something Trump said, but he's right, we ****ed up the Middle East.

[Kizzy]

I think a few said that before him.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I think a few said that before him.

It's not historically been a popular opinion on here though. Although, the people it's been unpopular with are also the same people who have been sort of jumping on the "trump defense" bandwagon of late. dilemma...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's not historically been a popular opinion on here though. Although, the people it's been unpopular with are also the same people who have been sort of jumping on the "trump defense" bandwagon of late. dilemma...

You know, I think you're right! That's some twilight zone shiz right there!

[GiRTh]

I like this part of Trump even though hes doing only for headlines. He's saying things that the political establishment wont dare to say even though they're almost certainly true.

[MTVN]

I don't think Trump's position is that contradictory tbh seeing as what he's criticising with the Iraq war is forcing through regime change whereas attacking ISIS now in Iraq is actually what their government is asking for. Trump's ISIS strategy would be like Putin's (and both men have talked about their respect for each other) where he would bomb widely and indiscriminately and not be too concerned about hitting other opposition forces. Unlike 99% of American politicians I doubt that Trump is too worried about Assad being removed from power.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Then I'm confused because I know I saw one of his speeches where he adamantly said he wanted to pull America away from Syria. I remember thinking 'hmm' well at least that's a good thing.

Are you confused though... or is it just clarification that Trump says what people want to hear in the moment and contradicts himself constantly... and isn't ashamed or afraid of being a liar in the least.

Pretty much plays to his character imo

[iRyan]

His statement doesn't even make sense. An entire religion hates the citizens of a country? Not true. He's grouping radical Islamic terrorists with all other peaceful Islamists who don't hate anyone.

[iRyan]

He is right that the Iraq War was a mistake though.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Mokka

Are you confused though... or is it just clarification that Trump says what people want to hear in the moment and contradicts himself constantly... and isn't ashamed or afraid of being a liar in the least.

Pretty much plays to his character imo

Yeah he pretty much got me on that one. Not that I want to listen to his rhetorical speeches much.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Do you really want to go there? We've been talking about the rise of racism since the political birth of Trump for weeks...months even. You don't agree because you agree with Trump and so there's no point trying to debate the racism issue any further with you.

He's never said anything racist. Neither Muslim nor Illegal Immigrant are races. Both are lifestyle choices. race is not a choice.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I don't think Trump's position is that contradictory tbh seeing as what he's criticising with the Iraq war is forcing through regime change whereas attacking ISIS now in Iraq is actually what their government is asking for. Trump's ISIS strategy would be like Putin's (and both men have talked about their respect for each other) where he would bomb widely and indiscriminately and not be too concerned about hitting other opposition forces. Unlike 99% of American politicians I doubt that Trump is too worried about Assad being removed from power.

Great post MTVN.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I don't think Trump's position is that contradictory tbh seeing as what he's criticising with the Iraq war is forcing through regime change whereas attacking ISIS now in Iraq is actually what their government is asking for. Trump's ISIS strategy would be like Putin's (and both men have talked about their respect for each other) where he would bomb widely and indiscriminately and not be too concerned about hitting other opposition forces. Unlike 99% of American politicians I doubt that Trump is too worried about Assad being removed from power.

Originally Posted by Livia

Great post MTVN.

Yeah MTVN

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think the west created a problem when it allowed immigrants (legal ones) to practice that despicable stone age religion - the deal should always have been. You come here and the rule is. No religion, no mosques and compulsory science lessons and religion debunking lessons.

We missed a big trick there

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think the west created a problem when it allowed immigrants (legal ones) to practice that despicable stone age religion - the deal should always have been. You come here and the rule is. No religion, no mosques and compulsory science lessons and religion debunking lessons.

We missed a big trick there

Think we would have to get rid of the "traditional" religion that still infests the coutry first, surely? You can't be like "You cannot continue to follow that nonsense! Oh, these people? Yeah they were already here so they can still follow their own nonsense..."

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Think we would have to get rid of the "traditional" religion that still infests the coutry first, surely? You can't be like "You cannot continue to follow that nonsense! Oh, these people? Yeah they were already here so they can still follow their own nonsense..."

ideally but as only around 4% of the UK practice christianity its best forgotten about

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think the west created a problem when it allowed immigrants (legal ones) to practice that despicable stone age religion - the deal should always have been. You come here and the rule is. No religion, no mosques and compulsory science lessons and religion debunking lessons.

We missed a big trick there

Now you're starting to sound like a communist

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Now you're starting to sound like a communist

thankyou brother red

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

thankyou brother red

[Crimson Dynamo]

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yeah MTVN

I don't get it

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Islamists hate us that's for sure.I would'nt say all muslims do though unless they do it secretly.
Loving the controversial LT threads as of late.I think this may be atleast a ten pager.

Tbf his not saying Muslims though, his being very clever on his wording as he is describing the Religion itself rather than the Muslim followers.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf his not saying Muslims though, his being very clever on his wording as he is describing the Religion itself rather than the Muslim followers.

THANK YOU MOCK for spotting this truth. Whether Trump is being clever or not you are right.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I don't get it

That's two of us. But T.S is T.S. Matt.

[Kizzy]

So if someone was to suggest christianity hated whatever no christians would have the right to be offended?