[Kazanne]

I wondered how long it would be before people tried to pin something on Jason,lol,no links,no proof,the guy seems normal and we cant have that,he cant be that bad if Charlie is so desperate to get him back,he is trying to let her down gently and it's not hard to be caught on camera they are everywhere.

[Beso]

she'll be telling him she's pregnant next.

[Nicky91]

Jason playing the victim role, i'm not his fan anymore

[kirklancaster]

YES - He is the victim.

No one really knows just WHAT Jason and Charlie's 'relationship' was really like, but from what we do know of their respective pasts and from what we are witnessing on BB - He is the victim.

By her OWN admissions, Charlie Doherty is an ex-stripper who claims that she "loves to be loved" but is a 'serial cheat' who has "been unfaithful in the majority of her past relationships".

By contrast, Jason is a relatively successful business owner and part-time actor and body double, who - despite being a powerfully built physically tough 'hard man' - is, by his own admission, "a softie" whom is regarded by those who know him as; "just a big marshmallow with a pet ****zu."

I believe Charlie to be a 'gold-digger' who - like all such women - has no qualms about 'trading' the only 'asset' which she possesses, her body (nothing to write home about there IMHO) for 'La Dolce Vita' -- courtesy of some gullible guy.

I believe that in Jason, she thought she had hit 'pay dirt' - a relatively well off, stable man who, because of his polite, soft-hearted, and submissive demeanour was malleable and 'putty in her hands'.

I further believe that having hit the 'mother lode' she was paranoid about losing it, and her self-admitted jealousy quickly caused the relationship to become toxic.

She admits that she did not "treat Jason nicely" and to being the reason for the breakdown of their relationship.

I recognise only too well that look of embarrassed sufferance and helplessness which poor Jason wears when hammy actress Charlie is bullying him with her - clearly fake - displays of weeping and wailing heartbreak because it is the same look I once wore.

I was in a very toxic relationship with a beautiful girl who DID love me totally but whose irrational insecurities eventually caused me to end the relationship.

Every time any woman - of any age - even looked at me, or if girls who were my long-standing friends that I had never had any type of intimate relationship with, stopped to say 'Hello', my girlfriend's face would drop and she would start the mother of all arguments.

How I squirmed with embarrassment - just like poor Jason.

It ended up that when I was out with my girlfriend and I spotted any female friends approaching, I would deliberately cross the street or pretend to look in shop windows to avoid any contact and the inevitable rows which followed.

So - yes - in my opinion, Jason is a victim and I will replicate here what I have posted on another thread:

"Charlie - Someone contact the Vatican - URGENTLY - we are all witnessing a true miracle; an hysterically weeping heartbroken woman but NO SIGN OF TEARS.

Poor Jason is too chivalrous and kind to deter her harrassment of him with the degree of nastiness and force which he AND she both know is necessary, and so this poor gentle man squirms with embarrassed acceptance while the hammy actress bullies him.

She is pathetic, and needs to retreat to a quiet corner of the house, adopt the 'Lotus' position and contemplate the words; Dignity and Self-Respect."

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I'm sure I've spotted him looking at the camera a couple of times when she has tried to snuggle up to him. There is something a bit cynical Jason. Few relationships are as one sided as this seems.

Yes he looked straight down the lens a few times last night, I am not buying this at all, he is being paid to be in there to cause drama ( and possibly her as well), he works in the movie business and he is hamming it up. Why did he sit through the lap dance is that not giving her the wrong idea

[hot2go]

Womens tears in the BB house are nearly always a tool of complete manipulation. They don't cry like vulnerable little victims after the show, they're usually hard as nails with a ruthless approach to everything they do.
There is nothing Jason could do that would make me think she's the victim.... She's playing games with him and everyone watching.

Why does ' no means no ' only apply to girls.
He's said no, that her queue to back the f-ck off.

Anything other than backing off is sexual harassment and emotional entrapment.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Womens tears in the BB house are nearly always a tool of complete manipulation. They don't cry like vulnerable little victims after the show, they're usually hard as nails with a ruthless approach to everything they do.
There is nothing Jason could do that would make me think she's the victim.... She's playing games with him and everyone watching.

Why does ' no means no ' only apply to girls.
He's said no, that her queue to back the f-ck off.
L
Anything other than backing off is sexual harassment and emotional entrapment.

Completely agree with this as well...I'm fighting to get you back..what 30 year old woman carries on like that, they are embarrassing themselves in there, it's the most ridiculous story line ever

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Womens tears in the BB house are nearly always a tool of complete manipulation. They don't cry like vulnerable little victims after the show, they're usually hard as nails with a ruthless approach to everything they do.
There is nothing Jason could do that would make me think she's the victim.... She's playing games with him and everyone watching.

Why does ' no means no ' only apply to girls.
He's said no, that her queue to back the f-ck off.

Anything other than backing off is sexual harassment and emotional entrapment.

yeah i also don't like Charlie



btw i sent you a pm

[hot2go]

When Laura said Marco wouldnt take no for an answer some people called him a predator ... Even tho the silly cow had her legs wrapped round him again 2 hours later.

But when Jason said Charlie won't take no for an answer those same people say he's playing the victim.

A lot of sexism taking place. One rule for girls and another one for men.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by hot2go

When Laura said Marco wouldnt take no for an answer some people called him a predator ... Even tho the silly cow had her legs wrapped round him again 2 hours later.

But when Jason said Charlie won't take no for an answer those same people say he's playing the victim.

A lot of sexism taking place. One rule for girls and another one for men.

hot2go spilling the truth tea

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

YES - He is the victim.

No one really knows just WHAT Jason and Charlie's 'relationship' was really like, but from what we do know of their respective pasts and from what we are witnessing on BB - He is the victim.

By her OWN admissions, Charlie Doherty is an ex-stripper who claims that she "loves to be loved" but is a 'serial cheat' who has "been unfaithful in the majority of her past relationships".

By contrast, Jason is a relatively successful business owner and part-time actor and body double, who - despite being a powerfully built physically tough 'hard man' - is, by his own admission, "a softie" whom is regarded by those who know him as; "just a big marshmallow with a pet ****zu."

I believe Charlie to be a 'gold-digger' who - like all such women - has no qualms about 'trading' the only 'asset' which she possesses, her body (nothing to write home about there IMHO) for 'La Dolce Vita' -- courtesy of some gullible guy.

I believe that in Jason, she thought she had hit 'pay dirt' - a relatively well off, stable man who, because of his polite, soft-hearted, and submissive demeanour was malleable and 'putty in her hands'.

I further believe that having hit the 'mother lode' she was paranoid about losing it, and her self-admitted jealousy quickly caused the relationship to become toxic.

She admits that she did not "treat Jason nicely" and to being the reason for the breakdown of their relationship.

I recognise only too well that look of embarrassed sufferance and helplessness which poor Jason wears when hammy actress Charlie is bullying him with her - clearly fake - displays of weeping and wailing heartbreak because it is the same look I once wore.

I was in a very toxic relationship with a beautiful girl who DID love me totally but whose irrational insecurities eventually caused me to end the relationship.

Every time any woman - of any age - even looked at me, or if girls who were my long-standing friends that I had never had any type of intimate relationship with, stopped to say 'Hello', my girlfriend's face would drop and she would start the mother of all arguments.

How I squirmed with embarrassment - just like poor Jason.

It ended up that when I was out with my girlfriend and I spotted any female friends approaching, I would deliberately cross the street or pretend to look in shop windows to avoid any contact and the inevitable rows which followed.

So - yes - in my opinion, Jason is a victim and I will replicate here what I have posted on another thread:

"Charlie - Someone contact the Vatican - URGENTLY - we are all witnessing a true miracle; an hysterically weeping heartbroken woman but NO SIGN OF TEARS.

Poor Jason is too chivalrous and kind to deter her harrassment of him with the degree of nastiness and force which he AND she both know is necessary, and so this poor gentle man squirms with embarrassed acceptance while the hammy actress bullies him.

She is pathetic, and needs to retreat to a quiet corner of the house, adopt the 'Lotus' position and contemplate the words; Dignity and Self-Respect."

Best post this week

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Best post this week

also one of the longest posts this week

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

also one of the longest posts this week

sometimes facts need to be strung out to tell the full picture and if Kirk spent time on a well thought out and logical post, he needs to be congratulated, not slated. Some people have literary skills, some don't.

[hot2go]

Sam and Jason both say their lives have been invaded by stalking behaviour ... It's good to now have the comparison of those alleged stalkers..

Charlie is dosplaying some classic hall marks of an obsessive. But Ryan has not shown any. He's not once shown anything but complete indifference to Sam.

I think Sam made all that up and Ryan's anger at Sans VT was genuine.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yes he looked straight down the lens a few times last night, I am not buying this at all, he is being paid to be in there to cause drama ( and possibly her as well), he works in the movie business and he is hamming it up. Why did he sit through the lap dance is that not giving her the wrong idea

But how would we know he wasn't looking into a mirror with a camera behind it? you are being very cynical Cherie bon,bon.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

YES - He is the victim.

No one really knows just WHAT Jason and Charlie's 'relationship' was really like, but from what we do know of their respective pasts and from what we are witnessing on BB - He is the victim.

By her OWN admissions, Charlie Doherty is an ex-stripper who claims that she "loves to be loved" but is a 'serial cheat' who has "been unfaithful in the majority of her past relationships".

By contrast, Jason is a relatively successful business owner and part-time actor and body double, who - despite being a powerfully built physically tough 'hard man' - is, by his own admission, "a softie" whom is regarded by those who know him as; "just a big marshmallow with a pet ****zu."

I believe Charlie to be a 'gold-digger' who - like all such women - has no qualms about 'trading' the only 'asset' which she possesses, her body (nothing to write home about there IMHO) for 'La Dolce Vita' -- courtesy of some gullible guy.

I believe that in Jason, she thought she had hit 'pay dirt' - a relatively well off, stable man who, because of his polite, soft-hearted, and submissive demeanour was malleable and 'putty in her hands'.

I further believe that having hit the 'mother lode' she was paranoid about losing it, and her self-admitted jealousy quickly caused the relationship to become toxic.

She admits that she did not "treat Jason nicely" and to being the reason for the breakdown of their relationship.

I recognise only too well that look of embarrassed sufferance and helplessness which poor Jason wears when hammy actress Charlie is bullying him with her - clearly fake - displays of weeping and wailing heartbreak because it is the same look I once wore.

I was in a very toxic relationship with a beautiful girl who DID love me totally but whose irrational insecurities eventually caused me to end the relationship.

Every time any woman - of any age - even looked at me, or if girls who were my long-standing friends that I had never had any type of intimate relationship with, stopped to say 'Hello', my girlfriend's face would drop and she would start the mother of all arguments.

How I squirmed with embarrassment - just like poor Jason.

It ended up that when I was out with my girlfriend and I spotted any female friends approaching, I would deliberately cross the street or pretend to look in shop windows to avoid any contact and the inevitable rows which followed.

So - yes - in my opinion, Jason is a victim and I will replicate here what I have posted on another thread:

"Charlie - Someone contact the Vatican - URGENTLY - we are all witnessing a true miracle; an hysterically weeping heartbroken woman but NO SIGN OF TEARS.

Poor Jason is too chivalrous and kind to deter her harrassment of him with the degree of nastiness and force which he AND she both know is necessary, and so this poor gentle man squirms with embarrassed acceptance while the hammy actress bullies him.

She is pathetic, and needs to retreat to a quiet corner of the house, adopt the 'Lotus' position and contemplate the words; Dignity and Self-Respect."

We've had hardly any posts on Jason so far, good to have one from someone who's had first hand experience of what Jason's going through. Thanks for being brave enough to share that with us.
Steve.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

YES - He is the victim.

No one really knows just WHAT Jason and Charlie's 'relationship' was really like, but from what we do know of their respective pasts and from what we are witnessing on BB - He is the victim.

By her OWN admissions, Charlie Doherty is an ex-stripper who claims that she "loves to be loved" but is a 'serial cheat' who has "been unfaithful in the majority of her past relationships".

By contrast, Jason is a relatively successful business owner and part-time actor and body double, who - despite being a powerfully built physically tough 'hard man' - is, by his own admission, "a softie" whom is regarded by those who know him as; "just a big marshmallow with a pet ****zu."

I believe Charlie to be a 'gold-digger' who - like all such women - has no qualms about 'trading' the only 'asset' which she possesses, her body (nothing to write home about there IMHO) for 'La Dolce Vita' -- courtesy of some gullible guy.

I believe that in Jason, she thought she had hit 'pay dirt' - a relatively well off, stable man who, because of his polite, soft-hearted, and submissive demeanour was malleable and 'putty in her hands'.

I further believe that having hit the 'mother lode' she was paranoid about losing it, and her self-admitted jealousy quickly caused the relationship to become toxic.

She admits that she did not "treat Jason nicely" and to being the reason for the breakdown of their relationship.

I recognise only too well that look of embarrassed sufferance and helplessness which poor Jason wears when hammy actress Charlie is bullying him with her - clearly fake - displays of weeping and wailing heartbreak because it is the same look I once wore.

I was in a very toxic relationship with a beautiful girl who DID love me totally but whose irrational insecurities eventually caused me to end the relationship.

Every time any woman - of any age - even looked at me, or if girls who were my long-standing friends that I had never had any type of intimate relationship with, stopped to say 'Hello', my girlfriend's face would drop and she would start the mother of all arguments.

How I squirmed with embarrassment - just like poor Jason.

It ended up that when I was out with my girlfriend and I spotted any female friends approaching, I would deliberately cross the street or pretend to look in shop windows to avoid any contact and the inevitable rows which followed.

So - yes - in my opinion, Jason is a victim and I will replicate here what I have posted on another thread:

"Charlie - Someone contact the Vatican - URGENTLY - we are all witnessing a true miracle; an hysterically weeping heartbroken woman but NO SIGN OF TEARS.

Poor Jason is too chivalrous and kind to deter her harrassment of him with the degree of nastiness and force which he AND she both know is necessary, and so this poor gentle man squirms with embarrassed acceptance while the hammy actress bullies him.

She is pathetic, and needs to retreat to a quiet corner of the house, adopt the 'Lotus' position and contemplate the words; Dignity and Self-Respect."

Great post Kirk,said as it is,love reading your stuff.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

also one of the longest posts this week

Great post though,I like something I can read,Kirk tells it as it is.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by hot2go

When Laura said Marco wouldnt take no for an answer some people called him a predator ... Even tho the silly cow had her legs wrapped round him again 2 hours later.

But when Jason said Charlie won't take no for an answer those same people say he's playing the victim.

A lot of sexism taking place. One rule for girls and another one for men.

As I recall hot2go,Laura wanted them to just be friends and Marco accepted that and never went there again until laura made it quite clear she wanted him there AGAIN,that woman has more faces than Big Ben

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Great post though,I like something I can read,Kirk tells it as it is.

yeah, Kirk is also a good friend to me on the forum, just like you are

[ebandit]

....if they were not such fame hungry wannabes....one would have sense

....to walk away...

Mark L

[TT350]

If one person loves another and it isn't reciprocated then usually the person who DOES feel love will go to any lengths, for a while, to get the other person back. Especially if the other person DID love them.

So you can get into silly, humiliating behaviour like crying and begging. I know. I have been there and done it!

Yeah its annoying to watch. But also like others have said, Jason has been thrust into a situation where he's cooped up with her. He'd already moved on now he's having to rehash something that to him is done and dusted. So he comes across as disinterested. I think he's trying his best given the situation.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I wondered how long it would be before people tried to pin something on Jason,lol,no links,no proof,the guy seems normal and we cant have that,he cant be that bad if Charlie is so desperate to get him back,he is trying to let her down gently and it's not hard to be caught on camera they are everywhere.

So can we not even discuss the relationship or is that trying to pin something on Jason?

Both of them say she was to blame for the relationship failure so I'm simply asking if the forum think its as one sided as is being presented.

[sampvt]

You don't need to be a behaviour scientist to see whats going on here. All you need is a comfy chair, a cup of tea, a big tv and 20 20 vision. Its plain the woman is desperate and will go to all lengths to get her man and she is using bB to get it. BB has no right to place Jason in a stalker situation which is what they are doing.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

As I recall hot2go,Laura wanted them to just be friends and Marco accepted that and never went there again until laura made it quite clear she wanted him there AGAIN,that woman has more faces than Big Ben

One big difference between Laura and Big Ben though...,not everyone's been up Big Ben