[joeysteele]

The point really is if businesses and Banks like this start moving out of Britain, other investors and companies are more likely to wonder why, and then just for safety's sake go to another EU Nation, in the single market, in mainland Europe.

The leave side likely won't consider that a possibility I doubt however.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The point really is if businesses and Banks like this start moving out of Britain, other investors and companies are more likely to wonder why, and then just for safety's sake go to another EU Nation, in the single market, in mainland Europe.

The leave side likely won't consider that a possibility I doubt however.

You obviously are still bitter about the EU result because the UK voted to leave the EU which clearly went against your own view. I understand that, but You are supposed to be working for the UK people and they made their judgement on the EU in/out issue and now you are supposed to accept what the public want yet you continue to tell the majority that they are wrong? Are you for democracy or not? Because if you are then you should accept the will of the UK people and shut up.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

You obviously are still bitter about the EU result because the UK voted to leave the EU which clearly went against your own view. I understand that, but You are supposed to be working for the UK people and they made their judgement on the EU in/out issue and now you are supposed to accept what the public want yet you continue to tell the majority that they are wrong? Are you for democracy or not? Because if you are then you should accept the will of the UK people and shut up.

48% of 33,500,000 said the decision was wrong,not just me.
I will also shut up when 'I' want to not when anyone else rudely tells me to.

Anyway go annoy someone else,I have nothing whatsoever at all to say to you.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

48% said the decision was wrong,not just me.
I will also shut up when 'I' want to not when anyone else rudely tells me to.

Anyway go annoy someone else,I have nothing whatsoever at all to say to you.

You can bang on about stats all night long. The FACT is the UK voted to leave. Why is that so hard for you to accept?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

You obviously are still bitter about the EU result because the UK voted to leave the EU which clearly went against your own view. I understand that, but You are supposed to be working for the UK people and they made their judgement on the EU in/out issue and now you are supposed to accept what the public want yet you continue to tell the majority that they are wrong? Are you for democracy or not? Because if you are then you should accept the will of the UK people and shut up.

You think that democracy works by identifying the will of the majority and then everyone else "shutting up"? Deeerrrrpppppp no it works when people of differing opinions campaign for and try to convince others of their opinion until they do achieve a majority.

What you believe in is useless, stagnant mob rule

[Johnnyuk123]

I will tell you what i find rude. People banging on doors offering pensioners a lift to the polling booths on the promise that they will vote remain. That to me is very rude.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

I will tell you what i find rude. People banging on doors offering pensioners a lift to the polling booths on the promise that they will vote remain. That to me is very rude.

How odd, you would rather they walked and possibly tripped or something.

They ask for the lifts most of the time and no one has any real idea of how they will really vote anyway as no one actually sees their ballot paper.

I think you are the one with the odd view of democracy, with respect.
Quite what giving people lifts to polling stations has to do with this thread is beyond me.

[Cherie]

Is it because the 1000 jobs are in London that they are being so easily dismissed? Londoners have to eat..have rent/mortgages and bills the same as people beyond the Watford gap

[Tom4784]

To be expected, every financial expert worth their salt around the world were united in saying that Brexit was a terrible idea but noooo, they're all Nazis! They're all corrupt and whatever excuses Gove and his group of morons came up with to discredit what was common sense.

We're going to keep losing out like this if we aren't part of the single trade and if we are then immigration remains the same and so does everything else except we won't get a say in the EU any more but hey! We got to stick it to the man, right?

It's rather satisfying to watch the Brexit campaign continue to self destruct so quickly after their victory. Leaving won't help the NHS' funding, it won't change immigration and we're still going to have to dance to the EU's tune. What were meant to be the benefits of leaving again? There doesn't seem to be any.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

To be expected, every financial expert worth their salt around the world were united in saying that Brexit was a terrible idea but noooo, they're all Nazis! They're all corrupt and whatever excuses Gove and his group of morons came up with to discredit what was common sense.

We're going to keep losing out like this if we aren't part of the single trade and if we are then immigration remains the same and so does everything else except we won't get a say in the EU any more but hey! We got to stick it to the man, right?

It's rather satisfying to watch the Brexit campaign continue to self destruct so quickly after their victory. Leaving won't help the NHS' funding, it won't change immigration and we're still going to have to dance to the EU's tune. What were meant to be the benefits of leaving again? There doesn't seem to be any.

Indeed Dezzy, I agree with all that.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

To be expected, every financial expert worth their salt around the world were united in saying that Brexit was a terrible idea but noooo, they're all Nazis! They're all corrupt and whatever excuses Gove and his group of morons came up with to discredit what was common sense.

We're going to keep losing out like this if we aren't part of the single trade and if we are then immigration remains the same and so does everything else except we won't get a say in the EU any more but hey! We got to stick it to the man, right?

It's rather satisfying to watch the Brexit campaign continue to self destruct so quickly after their victory. Leaving won't help the NHS' funding, it won't change immigration and we're still going to have to dance to the EU's tune. What were meant to be the benefits of leaving again? There doesn't seem to be any.

As I posted in a thread t'other day (the one where someone thought that "scandinavia" wasn't in the EU ) the prime minister of Norway himself stated quite clearly that the reason his country is able to do well out of the EU is because they are told what's going through as EU legislation, and they piggyback it into their own laws so that they still mirror the status quo. He went on the say that "doing that wouldn't work for a country the size of the UK" (Norway has just 5 million).

But no, of course the UK "has da BIG chair now!!" and so we will be able to write our own rule book whilst dictating trading terms to the puny, terrified EU countries.

You couldn't make this stuff up.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

As I posted in a thread t'other day (the one where someone thought that "scandinavia" wasn't in the EU ) the prime minister of Norway himself stated quite clearly that the reason his country is able to do well out of the EU is because they are told what's going through as EU legislation, and they piggyback it into their own laws so that they still mirror the status quo. He went on the say that "doing that wouldn't work for a country the size of the UK" (Norway has just 5 million).

But no, of course the UK "has da BIG chair now!!" and so we will be able to write our own rule book whilst dictating trading terms to the puny, terrified EU countries.

You couldn't make this stuff up.

If you were only half as clever as you think you are. You are the biggest troll on this site.

Do not misrepresent what I said.

I will debate any aspect of the EU with you should you choose to refrain from posting meaningless and very infantile, 'clever clogs' psycho-babble and actually debate facts.

You are now becoming very tiresome - Grow up.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

If you were only half as clever as you think you are. You are the biggest troll on this site.

Do not misrepresent what I said.

I will debate any aspect of the EU with you should you choose to refrain from posting meaningless and very infantile, 'clever clogs' psycho-babble and actually debate facts.

You are now becoming very tiresome - Grow up.

You've been nothing but immature and smug since the result kirk, I believe you're reaping what you've sown and becoming frustrated with it from the sounds of things and I also believe you've lost quite a bit of respect from quite a few members... But that would just be my observation. If you didn't want to be "trolled", perhaps you should have chosen to handle your "victory" with more dignity.

None of us can debate the facts on this one, let's face it. We're at this point all blundering around in the dark giving our best guesses. Remain supporters in despair and leave supporters in giddy excitement. That applies across the board, from Tibb members to Westminster. No one has a ****ing clue. "The facts" have taken a holiday.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You've been nothing but immature and smug since the result kirk, I believe you're reaping what you've sown and becoming frustrated with it from the sounds of things and I also believe you've lost quite a bit of respect from quite a few members... But that would just be my observation. If you didn't want to be "trolled", perhaps you should have chosen to handle your "victory" with more dignity.

None of us can debate the facts on this one, let's face it. We're at this point all blundering around in the dark giving our best guesses. Remain supporters in despair and leave supporters in giddy excitement. That applies across the board, from Tibb members to Westminster. No one has a ****ing clue. "The facts" have taken a holiday.

I will leave it here because I do not want banning, but I totally refute that I have been smug or imature, and if I have lost any respect among members then let them tell me so and why, because your allegations are bull.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You've been nothing but immature and smug since the result kirk, I believe you're reaping what you've sown and becoming frustrated with it from the sounds of things and I also believe you've lost quite a bit of respect from quite a few members... But that would just be my observation. If you didn't want to be "trolled", perhaps you should have chosen to handle your "victory" with more dignity.

None of us can debate the facts on this one, let's face it. We're at this point all blundering around in the dark giving our best guesses. Remain supporters in despair and leave supporters in giddy excitement. That applies across the board, from Tibb members to Westminster. No one has a ****ing clue. "The facts" have taken a holiday.

Oh come eon TS... you calling someone else smug?

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

To be expected, every financial expert worth their salt around the world were united in saying that Brexit was a terrible idea but noooo, they're all Nazis! They're all corrupt and whatever excuses Gove and his group of morons came up with to discredit what was common sense.

We're going to keep losing out like this if we aren't part of the single trade and if we are then immigration remains the same and so does everything else except we won't get a say in the EU any more but hey! We got to stick it to the man, right?

It's rather satisfying to watch the Brexit campaign continue to self destruct so quickly after their victory. Leaving won't help the NHS' funding, it won't change immigration and we're still going to have to dance to the EU's tune. What were meant to be the benefits of leaving again? There doesn't seem to be any.

Great post.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

As I posted in a thread t'other day (the one where someone thought that "scandinavia" wasn't in the EU ) the prime minister of Norway himself stated quite clearly that the reason his country is able to do well out of the EU is because they are told what's going through as EU legislation, and they piggyback it into their own laws so that they still mirror the status quo. He went on the say that "doing that wouldn't work for a country the size of the UK" (Norway has just 5 million).

But no, of course the UK "has da BIG chair now!!" and so we will be able to write our own rule book whilst dictating trading terms to the puny, terrified EU countries.

You couldn't make this stuff up.

lol I said a while back that a lot of British people have an inflated sense of our own importance and still think we're this empire that'll do what the **** we want and that everyone will sing from our hymn sheet cause we're Great ****in Britain innit

We're now about to find out the very opposite is true, and I am quite looking forward to it

(but hey, maybe I'll be wrong - will be happy to be proven so!)

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Jack_

We're now about to find out the very opposite is true, and I am quite looking forward to it

(but hey, maybe I'll be wrong - will be happy to be proven so!)

That's the thing isn't it... It feels like there's this idea floating around that there will be some further victory for the leave voters when everything goes amazingly and they get to say "haha told you so!"...

I would be absolutely ****ing ecstatic to be proven wrong on this one. I'd sing it from the rooftops! I just really don't think it's going to go that way... And the pleasure I'll take in my own "told you it was going to fall apart" moment will be very, very limited.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

To be expected, every financial expert worth their salt around the world were united in saying that Brexit was a terrible idea but noooo, they're all Nazis! They're all corrupt and whatever excuses Gove and his group of morons came up with to discredit what was common sense.

We're going to keep losing out like this if we aren't part of the single trade and if we are then immigration remains the same and so does everything else except we won't get a say in the EU any more but hey! We got to stick it to the man, right?

It's rather satisfying to watch the Brexit campaign continue to self destruct so quickly after their victory. Leaving won't help the NHS' funding, it won't change immigration and we're still going to have to dance to the EU's tune. What were meant to be the benefits of leaving again? There doesn't seem to be any.

[microscope]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

To be expected, every financial expert worth their salt around the world were united in saying that Brexit was a terrible idea but noooo, they're all Nazis! They're all corrupt and whatever excuses Gove and his group of morons came up with to discredit what was common sense.

We're going to keep losing out like this if we aren't part of the single trade and if we are then immigration remains the same and so does everything else except we won't get a say in the EU any more but hey! We got to stick it to the man, right?

It's rather satisfying to watch the Brexit campaign continue to self destruct so quickly after their victory. Leaving won't help the NHS' funding, it won't change immigration and we're still going to have to dance to the EU's tune. What were meant to be the benefits of leaving again? There doesn't seem to be any.

How is it self destructing?

It will change immigration as we can control our borders once we leave. If Europe is in control then it's hard to refuse as we have to do what they say. We don't have to dance to their tune anymore unless the new man or woman at number 10 Downing street let's them.

The benefits are very clear. By having less foreigners live in the UK we instantly save Billions of pounds over time. The cost of staying in the EU per week is £250 Million, so that's a lot less money thrown down the Brussels toilet We have our country back again in complete control without having to ask permission on what we can and can't do, which put's the word "Great" back in Great Britain. There is also a lot more positives

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by microscope

How is it self destructing?

It will change immigration as we can control our borders once we leave. If Europe is in control then it's hard to refuse as we have to do what they say. We don't have to dance to their tune anymore unless the new man or woman at number 10 Downing street let's them.

The benefits are very clear. By having less foreigners live in the UK we instantly save Billions of pounds over time. The cost of staying in the EU per week is £250 Million, so that's a lot less money thrown down the Brussels toilet We have our country back again in complete control without having to ask permission on what we can and can't do, which put's the word "Great" back in Great Britain. There is also a lot more positives

250 million, that's a million less than last week

[bots]

Originally Posted by Cherie

250 million, that's a million less than last week

it reflects the new value of the pound

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it reflects the new value of the pound

Of course

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by microscope

How is it self destructing?

It will change immigration as we can control our borders once we leave. If Europe is in control then it's hard to refuse as we have to do what they say. We don't have to dance to their tune anymore unless the new man or woman at number 10 Downing street let's them.

The benefits are very clear. By having less foreigners live in the UK we instantly save Billions of pounds over time. The cost of staying in the EU per week is £250 Million, so that's a lot less money thrown down the Brussels toilet We have our country back again in complete control without having to ask permission on what we can and can't do, which put's the word "Great" back in Great Britain. There is also a lot more positives

Immigration will not change, it's naive to think it will because we need to get in on the Single Trade and to do that we need to play by EU rules which means free movement. If we're not part of it then plenty more companies will move their operations to EU countries and we'll lose out.

[microscope]

Originally Posted by microscope

How is it self destructing?

It will change immigration as we can control our borders once we leave. If Europe is in control then it's hard to refuse as we have to do what they say. We don't have to dance to their tune anymore unless the new man or woman at number 10 Downing street let's them.

The benefits are very clear. By having less foreigners live in the UK we instantly save Billions of pounds over time. The cost of staying in the EU per week is £250 Million, so that's a lot less money thrown down the Brussels toilet We have our country back again in complete control without having to ask permission on what we can and can't do, which put's the word "Great" back in Great Britain. There is also a lot more positives

Immigration numbers will change but sadly it is not Nigel Farage who will be calling the shots and I can estimate already that the Conservatives will let a lot more in than he would do, but however many more they bring in than the UKIP's would, it will still be a lot less than it would be if we had stayed in the EU. Also Albania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Turkey which the UK government were and are paying over £1.8 Billion just to encourage at least '2' of those countries to join the EU, would eventually find hundreds of thousands, or perhaps more of those people from all those countries coming to live in the UK, but not anymore and that will be the same answer to all the other European countries as long as this government says NO to them.

I know that if companies move away like HSBC are threatening to do then it does affect the economy in the short term, but if they are too weak to stay (or for that fact) ANY other business, then UK citizens can quite easily close their bank accounts at the banks that move elsewhere and simply move their money to banks who choose to stay over here. The same can be said with other businesses. People have to learn how to widen their scope and open their eyes and when one door closes then open another. I would absolutely love it if every single person in the UK closed their HSBC account lol. It's a pity people don't stick together. You can move mountains with enough people power, but their are simply too many sheep out there.

[Suze]

Originally Posted by microscope

Immigration numbers will change but sadly it is not Nigel Farage who will be calling the shots and I can estimate already that the Conservatives will let a lot more in than he would do, but however many more they bring in than the UKIP's would, it will still be a lot less than it would be if we had stayed in the EU. Also Albania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Turkey which the UK government were and are paying over £1.8 Billion just to encourage at least '2' of those countries to join the EU, would eventually find hundreds of thousands, or perhaps more of those people from all those countries coming to live in the UK, but not anymore and that will be the same answer to all the other European countries as long as this government says NO to them.

I know that if companies move away like HSBC are threatening to do then it does affect the economy in the short term, but if they are too weak to stay (or for that fact) ANY other business, then UK citizens can quite easily close their bank accounts at the banks that move elsewhere and simply move their money to banks who choose to stay over here. The same can be said with other businesses. People have to learn how to widen their scope and open their eyes and when one door closes then open another. I would absolutely love it if every single person in the UK closed their HSBC account lol. It's a pity people don't stick together. You can move mountains with enough people power, but their are simply too many sheep out there.

I so wish you posted more often