[reece(:]

Get the awful clique out!

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Get the awful clique out!

Yes get them out then we have fook all to watch. Great idea. Storylines and conflict comes from idiots not bores.

[lewis111]

Is this series goes the way I think it'll go: James and Gramt will be out soon and Saira will comes like 8th when up in an eviction against Bear and Biggins or somethin

[lewis111]

I think Frankie and Aubtey will just follow Renee and join team Bear

[lewis111]

I hope Bear goes OtT and gets removed ( I don't want to see Saira be bullied but he needs to go and the public will love him)

[lovebigbrotheruk]

The bullying is uncomfortable to watch at this point.

[fitz2k2]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Bear, Marnie, Lewis and Heavy D all acted disgustingly tonight and i feel they are going to becom one of this groups that like to bully and humiliate others

I guess you didn't watch the entire show.stop using the word bully.

[delta]

She played the victim the initial situation developed from a discussion with 4 adults discussing Saira's behaviour and that's what it was a bloody discussion, just because it didn't go her way or 3 of the participants didn't agree with her, doesn't constitute it as bullying.

What were the other 2 people supposed to do get up and walk away so that she couldn't play the victim card? As the Mafia woman said, she got into a conversation that didn't go her way and she didn't like what she was hearing.

All Lewis said was that if 3 or 4 people have come up with the same answer then perhaps it's time to start listening and to make adjustments

Boom, was advising her that it's the lack of subtlety in her voice and was saying it's the way you say things.

Bear then changed the subject and regurgitated a conversation they had in the bathroom where he said that he felt that she was trying to trip him up in conversations, she claimed he had taken it out of context ( he hadn't ) she then went on to explain, after saying she was just trying to get to know him, that she was asking him if had hit someone in order to be prepared, if he had said yes, so that she could avoid him if there was any confrontation.

Lewis, after she started to turn the water works on and play the victim, repeatedly said, let her have her own say, but she repeatedly turned on all 3 of them effectively calling them all out as bullying her.


At the end of the program, that was uncalled for but she's made a lot of enemies with her immature, poor me behaviour, I don't find her intelligent, just rude, passive aggressive and like a duck out of water. She doesn't know how to interact around people.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by delta

She played the victim the initial situation developed from a discussion with 4 adults discussing Saira's behaviour and that's what it was a bloody discussion, just because it didn't go her way or 3 of the participants didn't agree with her, doesn't constitute it as bullying.

What were the other 2 people supposed to do get up and walk away so that she couldn't play the victim card? As the Mafia woman said, she got into a conversation that didn't go her way and she didn't like what she was hearing.

All Lewis said was that if 3 or 4 people have come up with the same answer then perhaps it's time to start listening and to make adjustments

Boom, was advising her that it's the lack of subtlety in her voice and was saying it's the way you say things.

Bear then changed the subject and regurgitated a conversation they had in the bathroom where he said that he felt that she was trying to trip him up in conversations, she claimed he had taken it out of context ( he hadn't ) she then went on to explain, after saying she was just trying to get to know him, that she was asking him if had hit someone in order to be prepared, if he had said yes, so that she could avoid him if there was any confrontation.

Lewis, after she started to turn the water works on and play the victim, repeatedly said, let her have her own say, but she repeatedly turned on all 3 of them effectively calling them all out as bullying her.


At the end of the program, that was uncalled for but she's made a lot of enemies with her immature, poor me behaviour, I don't find her intelligent, just rude, passive aggressive and like a duck out of water. She doesn't know how to interact around people.

I can see me probably agreeing with what you say but not having watched tonight's episode I can't comment too much. I watched the clip. Saira was a motormouth in the Apprentice...she did everything her way and pretty much bullied the other contestants with her put downs and anything but her way was the right way.
She is extremely patronising and so far from what I have seen tries to get the 'worst' out of people by tying to label them be it 'racist' 'aggressive' bullying'.
Now if 4 people are pulling her up for being patronising it's a shame she couldn't just accept those opinions and maybe say "well I don't mean to be and if I do come across that way then I'm sorry". Now maybe she did say words to that effect, as I said I haven't watched the whole episode...but it would have diffused the situation.
I don't like Bear and it sounds like he was pretty vile tonight but if 4 people are trying to say the same thing and have the same opinion then that doesn't make it bullying. IMO they had a point but if they got nasty with it then they deserve what's coming their way.
What happened later from what I have read...well that's out of order and I'm glad James told them so.
Saira needs to take the critisism on board...but if she decides to take the line of being "the victim" I will dislike her even more.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I can see me probably agreeing with what you say but not having watched tonight's episode I can't comment too much. I watched the clip. Saira was a motormouth in the Apprentice...she did everything her way and pretty much bullied the other contestants with her put downs and anything but her way was the right way.
She is extremely patronising and so far from what I have seen tries to get the 'worst' out of people by tying to label them be it 'racist' 'aggressive' bullying'.
Now if 4 people are pulling her up for being patronising it's a shame she couldn't just accept those opinions and maybe say "well I don't mean to be and if I do come across that way then I'm sorry". Now maybe she did say words to that effect, as I said I haven't watched the whole episode...but it would have diffused the situation.
I don't like Bear and it sounds like he was pretty vile tonight but if 4 people are trying to say the same thing and have the same opinion then that doesn't make it bullying. IMO they had a point but if they got nasty with it then they deserve what's coming their way.
What happened later from what I have read...well that's out of order and I'm glad James told them so.
Saira needs to take the critisism on board...but if she decides to take the line of being "the victim" I will dislike her even more.

BIB about her playing the victim is my least favourite trait about Saira and why she's not my favourite.

She tried the tactic initially on James on Launch Night and when he didn't bite and has now become her friend, she's now using the four way group (which of course four people on one person is gonna look awful on national TV) to now make herself look a victim to the public and it's worked.

Don't get me wrong I actually find Saira funny which is a rarity for the victim chasing Housemates, but she'll never be someone I support as I don't support the Jale Housemates who deliberately try to ostracise themselves from Launch Night.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I can see me probably agreeing with what you say but not having watched tonight's episode I can't comment too much. I watched the clip. Saira was a motormouth in the Apprentice...she did everything her way and pretty much bullied the other contestants with her put downs and anything but her way was the right way.
She is extremely patronising and so far from what I have seen tries to get the 'worst' out of people by tying to label them be it 'racist' 'aggressive' bullying'.
Now if 4 people are pulling her up for being patronising it's a shame she couldn't just accept those opinions and maybe say "well I don't mean to be and if I do come across that way then I'm sorry". Now maybe she did say words to that effect, as I said I haven't watched the whole episode...but it would have diffused the situation.
I don't like Bear and it sounds like he was pretty vile tonight but if 4 people are trying to say the same thing and have the same opinion then that doesn't make it bullying. IMO they had a point but if they got nasty with it then they deserve what's coming their way.
What happened later from what I have read...well that's out of order and I'm glad James told them so.
Saira needs to take the critisism on board...but if she decides to take the line of being "the victim" I will dislike her even more.

Saira is using the poor bullied me card ,and like you say theres not only Marnie who doesn't like her, its 4 of them ,so she should think "Well maybe it IS me ?" but she's far too arrogant to do that

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by delta

She played the victim the initial situation developed from a discussion with 4 adults discussing Saira's behaviour and that's what it was a bloody discussion, just because it didn't go her way or 3 of the participants didn't agree with her, doesn't constitute it as bullying.

What were the other 2 people supposed to do get up and walk away so that she couldn't play the victim card? As the Mafia woman said, she got into a conversation that didn't go her way and she didn't like what she was hearing.

All Lewis said was that if 3 or 4 people have come up with the same answer then perhaps it's time to start listening and to make adjustments

Boom, was advising her that it's the lack of subtlety in her voice and was saying it's the way you say things.

Bear then changed the subject and regurgitated a conversation they had in the bathroom where he said that he felt that she was trying to trip him up in conversations, she claimed he had taken it out of context ( he hadn't ) she then went on to explain, after saying she was just trying to get to know him, that she was asking him if had hit someone in order to be prepared, if he had said yes, so that she could avoid him if there was any confrontation.

Lewis, after she started to turn the water works on and play the victim, repeatedly said, let her have her own say, but she repeatedly turned on all 3 of them effectively calling them all out as bullying her.


At the end of the program, that was uncalled for but she's made a lot of enemies with her immature, poor me behaviour, I don't find her intelligent, just rude, passive aggressive and like a duck out of water. She doesn't know how to interact around people.

I agree with everything you've said here. Heavy D didn't do anything wrong. lewis was very fair. Bear, despite being a pillock, did actually have a point. And Marnie was out of order.

But Saira is clearly a very patronising, antagonistic and possibly quite manipulative person.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

I agree with everything you've said here. Heavy D didn't do anything wrong. lewis was very fair. Bear, despite being a pillock, did actually have a point. And Marnie was out of order.

But Saira is clearly a very patronising, antagonistic and possibly quite manipulative person.

I agree...she knew Heavy D wasn't being a twat to her.....he's a gentle giant and he was only being friendly....what he was doing was no different to what she does all the time, only difference was he wasn't trying to be bigger or better than her, he was only telling her how she comes across...an intelligent person would have listened to what he said and taken it on board.

[Vicky.]

I don't think they are bullies tbh

I was completely on that heavy D guys side when he brought up her patronizing sneery comments.

Still haven't seen the Marnie tits in face thing mind if this is what this is about. But I have seen no bullying so far

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I don't think they are bullies tbh

I was completely on that heavy D guys side when he brought up her patronizing sneery comments.

Still haven't seen the Marnie tits in face thing mind if this is what this is about. But I have seen no bullying so far

Nobody has been bullied.That is the most overused term on this forum.That Saira has been a bitch to them all day.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Nobody has been bullied.That is the most overused term on this forum.That Saira has been a bitch to them all day.

This!

[EspeonBB]

They're not bullies imo but I still want them all gone

[Vanessa]

I think the only one with malicious intent was Bear, because he hates Saira. Marnie was drunk and probably won't even remember doing it.

[Northern Monkey]

Marnie was pissed off cos she'd gone in the bedroom and tried to make up and that Saira bitch had another go at her.Can't blame Marnie tbh

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Marnie was pissed off cos she'd gone in the bedroom and tried to make up and that Saira bitch had another go at her.Can't blame Marnie tbh

Ironically Saira was right. Marnie is a mess when she's had a drink

[Heaven = Winner]

From what I gather, it could turn into this situation where Bear and his alliance will try and take the piss out of Saira for their own entertainment. It already started today with that dare.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Heaven = Winner

From what I gather, it could turn into this situation where Bear and his alliance will try and take the piss out of Saira for their own entertainment. It already started today with that dare.

i don't think so.

[Heaven = Winner]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

i don't think so.

I think so.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Heaven = Winner

I think so.

I do think that Bear and Saira are going to butt heads again for sure. It's not the end of it.

[Heaven = Winner]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I do think that Bear and Saira are going to butt heads again for sure. It's not the end of it.

For sure! They get on like cheese and chalk