[Ian Coke]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Well yes but she was obviously making a big deal of it in how she went on about it.

Can you blame her though? Whatever Bear's like to watch on TV (I can take or leave him) he must be an absolute nightmare to live with. Particularly when it's clear that unless he outed himself as a full-on Nazi, and possibly not even then, the producers aren't going to do anything. He's been on his last warning, what, about five times now?

[Absorption]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I'm afraid I have to take what Sam says with a pinch of salt unless we actually see it because she comes over to me as someone who is mostly drunk or on something and she exaggerates wildly. 16 marshmellows became 19. Obviously if Bear had hurt her deliberately he should have been evicted, but without seeing it, it might not have happened in the way it was told and could have been an insignificant accident. We have to judge on the facts we see.

She did 16 initially, then tried to beat Marnie's 20 but managed to add 3 more, hence 19 is correct.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Absorption

She did 16 initially, then tried to beat Marnie's 20 but managed to add 3 more, hence 19 is correct.

Was this cut for the main show? I saw her add another one and fail to get it in. Wondering if maybe on a FB vid (whcih I havent seen all series) it was extended or something?

That task was stupid anyway. Everyone else got much easier stuff...and stuff BB could judge however they chose to rather than there be a clear winner.

Eg. Lewis shaving his pubes would clearly beat Bear shaving and eyebrow

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Was this cut for the main show? I saw her add another one and fail to get it in. Wondering if maybe on a FB vid (whcih I havent seen all series) it was extended or something?

That task was stupid anyway. Everyone else got much easier stuff...and stuff BB could judge however they chose to rather than there be a clear winner.

Eg. Lewis shaving his pubes would clearly beat Bear shaving and eyebrow

Well Ricky did'nt seem to think it was easy.He bottled it straight away

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Well Ricky did'nt seem to think it was easy.He bottled it straight away

Definitely not a Ricky fan, but he was NOT going to beat Frankie in most outrageous no matter what he did. I understood him doing nothing

[y.winter]

Finish this series alreadyyy. Ugh, so many flaws in 4 weeks, it's a disgrace.

[Vicky.]

I knew there would be a fuss about this...in Sams own words he...squirted water at her. Jesus...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I knew there would be a fuss about this...in Sams own words he...squirted water at her. Jesus...

Exactly, it was an accident.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I knew there would be a fuss about this...in Sams own words he...squirted water at her. Jesus...

He tricked her into looking into a bottle and squirted water so hard into her eyes she had to wear a patch.

If somebody did that to you in work or did it to a child of yours in school and injured them I'm sure you would want it dealt with.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

He tricked her into looking into a bottle and squirted water so hard into her eyes she had to wear a patch.

If somebody did that to you in work or did it to a child of yours in school and injured them I'm sure you would want it dealt with.

Dealt with in what way? I may call them a twat and then that would be it. Its an accident...jesus. I have had a bloody contact go up under my eyelid just from turning to look at something too fast, so its not exactly rare.

If someone did it to a child, thats quite different and I am sure you know that. Though I don't know any kids who wear contacts, so I don't think it could actually happen...

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

He tricked her into looking into a bottle and squirted water so hard into her eyes she had to wear a patch.

If somebody did that to you in work or did it to a child of yours in school and injured them I'm sure you would want it dealt with.

Nah, most of us would look at it as a joke gone bad with no malice intended, but there again, most of us are not PC and dont take life so seriously

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I knew there would be a fuss about this...in Sams own words he...squirted water at her. Jesus...

Exactly, a likely storm in a teacup incident again.

[Vanessa]

It was probably just a joke and things went wrong. I doubt he intended to hurt her.

[power2thepeople]

Two edits available. Bad Bear with the water. But even though I detest Bear, you may have a glimmer of hope re the edits that could follow it. Aubrey has just gone for Bear in a big way on live feed. She completely lost it!

[bots]

oh it was bear ... so it was just a prank clearly and Sam was making it all up ... yeah right

[Withano]

Bears best case scenario was he accidentally put two women in physical pain in the space of the month. His best case scenario describes a twat, can we not defend this please. Its completely gross.

Worst case scenario he intentionally attempted to irritate/humiliate/hurt at least two women and should have been ejected long ago. MTV probably demanded a good edit.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Bears best case scenario was he accidentally put two women in physical pain in the space of the month. His best case scenario describes a twat, can we not defend this please. Its completely gross.

Worst case scenario he intentionally attempted to irritate/humiliate/hurt at least two women and should have been ejected long ago. MTV probably demanded a good edit.

It sounded like an accident with some water to me. What second woman did he physically hurt?

It's not as bad as spitting in someones food and drink and letting them masticate it.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Withano

Bears best case scenario was he accidentally put two women in physical pain in the space of the month. His best case scenario describes a twat, can we not defend this please. Its completely gross.

Worst case scenario he intentionally attempted to irritate/humiliate/hurt at least two women and should have been ejected long ago. MTV probably demanded a good edit.

Why do you keep emphasising "women"? Is it because women are precious wittle flowers who we must handle with kiddy gloves and cotton wool? I know Sam still lives back in the 80's with mumsy but the rest of us have made it all the way to 2016.

And no I'm not saying it's "ok to beat up women", I'm just saying that we have at some point - surely - realised that they are not precious flowers who are off-limits for physical contact.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Why do you keep emphasising "women"? Is it because women are precious wittle flowers who we must handle with kiddy gloves and cotton wool? I know Sam still lives back in the 80's with mumsy but the rest of us have made it all the way to 2016.

And no I'm not saying it's "ok to beat up women", I'm just saying that we have at some point - surely - realised that they are not precious flowers who are off-limits for physical contact.

Oh im sorry genders exist. But i dont think its a coincidence personally, we saw how fast he conceded when the bigger guy came in the room. We might be moving towards equality but that doesnt mean Bear didnt intentionally choose weaker targets.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Withano

Bears best case scenario was he accidentally put two women in physical pain in the space of the month. His best case scenario describes a twat, can we not defend this please. Its completely gross.

Worst case scenario he intentionally attempted to irritate/humiliate/hurt at least two women and should have been ejected long ago. MTV probably demanded a good edit.

Aubrey's spitting was far worse and very very deliberate.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Aubrey's spitting was far worse and very very deliberate.

Which resulted in Bear being hurt.... oh wait no he asked for more spit to be directed into his mouth.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Aubrey's spitting was far worse and very very deliberate.

Was he injured though?

Because Sam was.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Was he injured though?

Because Sam was.

He had to seek medical advice for potential infection.

You can't compare an accident to deliberate spitting.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

He had to seek medical advice for potential infection.

You can't compare an accident to deliberate spitting.

Both were deliberate.

[Ian Coke]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

He had to seek medical advice for potential infection.

Yeah, but for Bear, getting an AIDS test must be like going to the gym for most people. Something you do about once a month.