[Will.]

Yeah the "game is changing" last year was kind of annoying, I wish the other house was used throughout the whole season as 2 houses (or for 80% of it).

I'm slightly optimistic about this year, it feels a bit different.

[T*]

There isn't any interest in the civi version because they SLAUGHTERED it. Stop reaching.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by T*

There isn't any interest in the civi version because they SLAUGHTERED it. Stop reaching.

You could say the same for CH4 after all it lost half of its audience on that channel

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

You could say the same for CH4 after all it lost half of its audience on that channel

Half of a 10 million strong audience.

[Denver]

Last years was one of CH5's most successful series entertainment wise

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Last years was one of CH5's most successful series entertainment wise

The viewers agree... but wait.

[Denver]

They do what is best and favour the one the viewers want more

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

They do what is best

[Cal.]

The viewers kind of did agree because it increased quite a bit on what BB16 was getting!

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cal.

The viewers kind of did agree because it increased quite a bit on what BB16 was getting!

It being better than rock bottom isn't the most glittering of compliments though?

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It being better than rock bottom isn't the most glittering of compliments though?

It was the third highest rated series on 5 though

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Cal.

The viewers kind of did agree because it increased quite a bit on what BB16 was getting!

People on this forum expect it to get 20 million viewers a night

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

People on this forum expect it to get 20 million viewers a night

Yes, look at all of the people expecting that.

Oh wait.

[T*]

Can we go back to the topic on hand rather than the 'I like BB y no everyone else ((((((((((((' argument

[Cal.]

Yeah I agree that they should stop chasing a magical make believe audience every year and start focusing on pleasing the actual fans they have left. When they've pleased those fans then they'll begin to talk more positively about the show and will be able to entice old and new fans again .

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Yeah I agree that they should stop chasing a magical make believe audience every year and start focusing on pleasing the actual fans they have left. When they've pleased those fans then they'll begin to talk more positively about the show and will be able to entice old and new fans again .

This is so true! They were clearly trying to get some of the Love Island fans with the suitcase adverts for CBB18. This year they're trying to attract an intellectual audience and it's a mess. Stop trying to make the show something it's not!

[Denver]

The amount of people who watch TV each night has fell by millions as catch up is more important and BB is CH5's biggest show on every platform they have

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

The amount of people who watch TV each night has fell by millions as catch up is more important and BB is CH5's biggest show on every platform they have

You're arguing a point that nobody made hun.

[RichardG]

the show was so boring by the end of its run on c4

c5's civ seasons have been ok, not great but better than bb9-11 (with the exception of 15 and maybe 16 i guess), and their cbb seasons have been amazing

i think endemol will keep the show with c5 if they still want it because no one else will take it. but i disagree that the show would improve if it returned to c4.

[Rob!]

I've got to be honest, I absolutely adored BB17. Channel 5's problem is that it doesn't have enough faith in the format to let it just do it's thing. They are constantly chasing ratings which they don't seem to get makes the show a lot lot crapper than it needs to be. Unfortunately, the type of audience they've attracted because of those decisions means we're left with a show that has a completely different viewing demographic than what it started with.

[Wizard.]

The ratings aren't the best worldwide either - Canada gets under a million, US about 6 million and Australia, well we know what happened there. It is a tired, haggered franchise but it has lasted so long due to the core fans of the show.

I view Big Brother kind of like Madonna and Britney, once they were icons on top of their game, and they continue to carry on but are nowhere near as popular as they were at the height of their careers. They're never going to pick up new fans, but the old ones who were there through the good and the bad allow them to keep going for those fans.

[Greg!]

Loads of recent series have been good. BB17, CBB19 and CBB17 are examples. The issue is that C5 edit, promote and produce it awfully. Endemol needs to tell them to improve in those areas if they want to renew it

[Jason.]

Axe it!

[Jodie.]

I think C5 are trying to learn from their mistakes, this series is seeming to get really good early promotion, they're referring to it as a social experiment, saying the cast is diverse etc, I think they're trying to cling on to the audience they got back with BB17, like what they tried to do with BB15 but this seems more thought-out

[SteveG2688]

I personally dont think any other channel would take it. For it to be sold once, fine but to sell it twice sais the show is struggling and would put off potential buyers. A lesser known channel may take it, I could see ITV-be possibly being interested as they like reality tv.