[James]

I mean after the election, and the new (UK) parliament is sitting?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by James

I mean after the election, and the new (UK) parliament is sitting?

Oh okay yes

[reece(:]

They're a mess, as if there's severe weather changes between Fife and Brighton

[user104658]

Originally Posted by reece(:

They're a mess, as if there's severe weather changes between Fife and Brighton

I grew up in Ayrshire, have lived down near Manchester, and now back north of the border and there is honestly very little difference at all for the mostpart.

I have also lived in Dundee (For University) and I would say that it was notably colder in the winter, and also drier in the summer, than Ayrshire but that's an East / West coast difference rather than a north and south. In fact, I would say the weather in Ayrshire is much more akin to the weather in the North of England than it is the east coast of Scotland.

Further towards the north / the Highlands & Islands I would say it is significantly colder in winter... but something like 75% of Scotland's population is in the Central Belt + borders. The weather is pretty much the same as anywhere else in the UK .

[Denver]

Britain's wants a referendum to expell Scotland

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Some but not many Britain's wants a referendum to expell Scotland

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[James]

I'm from Ayrshire. Just looking at weather maps it seems like the southern part of England is usually a few degrees warmer. The middle less so, and the north about the same.

[smudgie]

If it is not too hard to whittle down those who can't claim dole, ESA etc based on income then it shouldn't be too hard to do the same with the winter fuel payment.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by smudgie

If it is not too hard to whittle down those who can't claim dole, ESA etc based on income then it shouldn't be too hard to do the same with the winter fuel payment.

I don't think you need to claim it at the moment,pretty sure all pensioners get it ,Some well off pensioners have said they don't need it so I don't see the problem with them not having it.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I don't think you need to claim it at the moment,pretty sure all pensioners get it ,Some well off pensioners have said they don't need it so I don't see the problem with them not having it.

There are also people who say they don't need it but they paid their taxes and NI all their life so they may as well get something back, how can Scotland afford to keep giving ALL their pensioner winter fuel, yet England can't, it's take take take with the Tory's is anyone getting anything back? so far the only ones that are going to benefit from the Tory manifesto are Starbucks when their corporation tax is cut... no tax breaks for the "ordinary working people" May keeps banging on about, oh and Brexit which is going ahead anyway whatever party gets in.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

There are also people who say they don't need it but they paid their taxes and NI all their life so they may as well get something back, how can Scotland afford to keep giving ALL their pensioner winter fuel, yet England can't, it's take take take with the Tory's is anyone getting anything back? so far the only ones that are going to benefit from the Tory manifesto are Starbucks when their corporation tax is cut... no tax breaks for the "ordinary working people" May keeps banging on about, oh and Brexit which is going ahead anyway whatever party gets in.

Ooops.... our Cherie just fell off the fence

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

There are also people who say they don't need it but they paid their taxes and NI all their life so they may as well get something back, how can Scotland afford to keep giving ALL their pensioner winter fuel, yet England can't, it's take take take with the Tory's is anyone getting anything back? so far the only ones that are going to benefit from the Tory manifesto are Starbucks when their corporation tax is cut... no tax breaks for the "ordinary working people" May keeps banging on about, oh and Brexit which is going ahead anyway whatever party gets in.

Don't Scotland get over £1500 per head extra than England due to the Barnett formula?
Even Barnett himself said the system was unfair in 2004 and that it isn't working.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

There are also people who say they don't need it but they paid their taxes and NI all their life so they may as well get something back, how can Scotland afford to keep giving ALL their pensioner winter fuel, yet England can't, it's take take take with the Tory's is anyone getting anything back? so far the only ones that are going to benefit from the Tory manifesto are Starbucks when their corporation tax is cut... no tax breaks for the "ordinary working people" May keeps banging on about, oh and Brexit which is going ahead anyway whatever party gets in.

You could say this though about people who want things for free all the time even when they don't need it,that smacks of greed to me,if someone says they don't want it as they don't need it surely that can go towards people who do,it seems we want to take,take,take even when we don't need it.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

You could say this though about people who want things for free all the time even when they don't need it,that smacks of greed to me,if someone says they don't want it as they don't need it surely that can go towards people who do,it seems we want to take,take,take even when we don't need it.

It's not greed though, we should be looking after our elderly, greed is squirrelling millions off shore and companies paying minimum wage not Doris getting 100.00 towards her fuel bill

[Kizzy]

If they don't want it or need it they can say so, or donate the money to a charity... Why if some don't need it should that mean those that do have to jump though hoops yo get it?