[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

So what was Arthur and Imran?

Yup. People seem to forget that he did spend time with blokes. Not that I see its a problem for him to get on better with women anyway...a lot of gay guys are the same.

I wish Arthur had stayed...the dynamic would be so different IMO

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Lotan and his bitches have excluded Raph from the beginning. Bunch of neanderthals

Well no they haven't. Even on last nights show Raph was seen sat with them all with no issues If he choses to spend time with others thats his choice but its kind of annoying seeing so many people saying he is being excluded when thats really not the case I don't understand his sudden aversion to sex talk either tbh given he was in his element talking about large penises AND he spends a lot of time with Chanelle who seems to talk about nowt but whats between her legs...

[Vladimir]

Originally Posted by rionablue

Isnt it amazing that Raph hasnt forged a friendship with ANY of the guys in there.?

Well they're all awful, so good for him.

[Vanessa]

Lotan is an even bigger bitch

[lime]

He gets on with Kieran fine when it's one to one between them...seen them talking on lf last night..

As for the others Joe /Tom /Lothan...he doesn't like them ...they don't like him ...why would anyone expect them to forge a friendship...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by lime

He gets on with Kieran fine when it's one to one between them...seen them talking on lf last night..

As for the others Joe /Tom /Lothan...he doesn't like them ...they don't like him ...why would anyone expect them to forge a friendship...

He does hang out with them. But he doesn't like the endless sex chat. It would bore me as well, to be honest.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He does hang out with them. But he doesn't like the endless sex chat. It would bore me as well, to be honest.

He told you this before or after he told us about having a big dick up his arse ?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He does hang out with them. But he doesn't like the endless sex chat. It would bore me as well, to be honest.

But his best friend is queen of the sex chat,

[Ellen]

He has to cling on to someone while in there otherwise he would be billy no mate's. The sister's are as bitchy & sneaky has him so they are well matched.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Ellen

He has to cling on to someone while in there otherwise he would be billy no mate's. The sister's are as bitchy & sneaky has him so they are well matched.

Hannah won't be there any longer i think, i liked her to begin with, but she can scream and if there is something i hate is screaming girls

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

But his best friend is queen of the sex chat,

But she listens to him and actually got to know him.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But she listens to him and actually got to know him.

He has fun with Chanelle, she doesn't appear to be as smithy when with him.
They just are able to be comfortable around each other.

I'd avoid Joe,Tom,Lotan and to a degree Kieran too if I was in there.
I'm bored listening to them,watching less than an hours highlights, hearing their tripe all day must be near purgatory.

[Garfie]

Apart from Raph there are only 4 remaining males- Lotan, Kieran, Tom and Joe- and they are very different to Raph, and don't seem to be the types he has much in common with.

The house has so many more females than males, that Raph is restricted in the friendship groups he can join.

They really need more males in there but it seems BB want to focus too much on Lotan and Kieran from the tasks given out and the highlights shown.

[bots]

People that constantly moan about the others around them will never win. People don't like that .... Ashleigh learnt that lesson. In many ways, this is turning in to a rerun of that series with one set hiding in the bedroom gossiping.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

People that constantly moan about the others around them will never win. People don't like that .... Ashleigh learnt that lesson. In many ways, this is turning in to a rerun of that series with on set hiding in the bedroom gossiping.

moaning and whining is never liked, and Georgina also learned that lesson


look drama might be entertaining for us, but housemates don't like that, if some are irritating


and i'm glad my fave is stearing clear from all that so far, and just being nice might be boring but it is a smart strategy if you want to survive longer in the house

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by rionablue

Isnt it amazing that Raph hasnt forged a friendship with ANY of the guys in there. He is clung to the sisters like a leach. I was glad when he was in the room with the others and could SEE AND HEAR the sisters bitching. They are both vile and even though I didnt like Rebecca I wanted Hannah out. Raph and the girls need to be careful now as the other group will pick them off . I had high hopes for Raph but he went from hero to zero after week one. Anyone agree?

Totally agree, and he's the biggest bitch of them all,its him who sits and listens whats said then runs back with his gossip, Oh yes they are now in danger as you say the large group will pick them off one by one, i said yesterday he's not that good a game player and BB master fan as he chose to run the smaller group .....Major mistake

[Withano]

I cant imagine many guys would befriend Lotan, Kieran, Tom, and Joe. Most guys actually hate that #LAD culture that BB would have viewers believe to be common

[Crimson Dynamo]

he has graduated to the least friendly, least entertaining and most sly 2 in the house

and little wonder why that is...

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he has graduated to the least friendly, least entertaining and most sly 2 in the house

and little wonder why that is...

Birds of a feather ? He's not as smart as he wants us to believe he is, or he would have tagged onto Lotan

[bots]

Raph wanted a division and a little group that were malleable enough for him to control. How can anyone not see that's his game plan.

If he were to talk to people outside his group, he reduces his strength.

He is aiming for the .... everyone makes up in the final week scenario, and it just won't wash. That game plan didn't work for Ashleigh and it won't work for him

[Northern Monkey]

This has to be the new name for that group 'Raph and his bitches'

[MrWong]

The OTT hate and made up bollocks re: Raph is making me a fan

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by MrWong

The OTT hate and made up bollocks re: Raph is making me a fan

If youre his fan, i defo hate him now,

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by sampvt

If youre his fan, i defo hate him now,

Great

I'd be extremely worried if we ever shared the same taste in hm's.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by MrWong

The OTT hate and made up bollocks re: Raph is making me a fan

The more I see the over the top hate, the more I love Raph. I always like the underdog.

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by rionablue

Isnt it amazing that Raph hasnt forged a friendship with ANY of the guys in there. He is clung to the sisters like a leach. I was glad when he was in the room with the others and could SEE AND HEAR the sisters bitching. They are both vile and even though I didnt like Rebecca I wanted Hannah out. Raph and the girls need to be careful now as the other group will pick them off . I had high hopes for Raph but he went from hero to zero after week one. Anyone agree?

not just because you are blue but I agree with you riona - he has gone down in my eyes to.

I no he is young but needs some back bone.