[Withano]

Originally Posted by jet

Corbyn said he'd be in power within 6 months, remember? That would less than 5 months now. Just in time for Christmas and Santa Corbyn with his big money sack. Yippee!

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Not so clued up as you imply.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Not so clued up as you imply.

Its cool that you can make presumptions from an emoji. I've stated not so long ago, in quite a large discussion with you why i tend to ignore the debates nowadays, thats still the case - its still not worth my time, its changed for the worse very recently (see the post I quoted here for an example).

[Kizzy]

If there is money for destroyers. nuclear power plants, fracking, HS2 and DUP bribes there is money for housing...

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

If there is money for destroyers. nuclear power plants, fracking, HS2 and DUP bribes there is money for housing...

You'd think. I guesss this is why costed manifestos are important - there needs to be way more transparency.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/new...ion_in_Senedd/

I'm not surprised there is a mixed reaction to this. Like many I believe the right to buy gives many social housing tenants an opportunity to better their lives and those of their children. I think it is one of the more positive policies that have come from the Conservative government.

I am appalled at Corbyn's attempt, amongst others, to scrap this policy and, in my opinion, goes against trying to help people at the lower end of the earnings market. It is a positive and productive policy.

There should be room in a labour agenda to give people the chance to own their own property and improve their lives as well as successive future generations. If people own their own homes they have the opportunities to help their children and their children help their children etc. I also believe it would encourage people to want more for themselves and to have something to pass onto their children and want to work and come off benefits.

In my opinion, shame on Corbyn and other Labour MPs for this elitist and downright social stagnation of the less well off.

The only answer to reduced availability of social housing is to build more. If Corbyn thinks there is enough money in the pot to pay uni fees and backdate it for all students then there is enough to replenish the social housing stock. Maybe this policy should be revisited as people across the age spectrum should be considered in that manifesto. Currently it comes across as very selective.

what young naive students forget about comrade corbyn and his socialist / comminist buddies...is they want to take away your individuality and your real choices, they want to take away your ambition and make you beholdent/enslaved to them and their handouts for life....theyre the equivalent of the dodgy old person who offer you boiled sweets , the person your parents always warn you to avoid. santa corbyn is a dangerous man making false promises like the wicked queen of narnia, heres some turkish delight for a quick fix populist cheap pleasure but it will poison you for life with debts loss of ambition etc

[DemolitionRed]

Now we have very little social (government owned) housing left so the Cons clasp their hands and come up with the idea of extending the right to buy to housing association tenants. Unlike council houses, the government don’t own these homes and so it has to compensate the housing associations every time there's a sale. The only way they can do this is by snatching newly vacated council property and selling it for its real market value. That spare money is then used to compensate housing association sales. Obviously, the higher value the council house, the more money in the pot. Higher value council houses in the most affluent parts of London are NOT being sold off to tenants and because tenants are not moving on quickly enough, government repossession orders are getting these tenants relocated to two bedroom properties in places like Dudley. What we won’t see is new council houses being built.

We have over 2 million people on council house waiting lists and we are losing around 100,000 social homes a year. More and more tenants are having to move into privately owned properties and will pay double or more in rent and have to abide by costly contracts that could see them out on the street in six months. Even people with disabilities are having to rent privately.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

More and more tenants are having to move into privately owned properties and will pay double or more in rent and have to abide by costly contracts that could see them out on the street in six months.

IIRC Truth is a private landlord so this probably makes his balls tingle with glee.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

IIRC Truth is a private landlord so this probably makes his balls tingle with glee.

yeah the left peddle all landlords as evil ebeneezer scrooges and all tennants to be florence nightingale types.....Im sure that sells well to naive students , the real world is totally different, its called real politik

[user104658]

Originally Posted by the truth

yeah the left peddle all landlords as evil ebeneezer scrooges

As someone who has been renting privately since I was 18, with 6 different landlords... Yeah that sounds pretty accurate. I've had one who was brilliant, one who was decent, and four who have been money-grubbing arseholes.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

IIRC Truth is a private landlord so this probably makes his balls tingle with glee.

That's unfair...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jet

That's unfair...

It's unfair to suggest that a right-"leaning" private landlord is probably happy about there being more money in the private rental business due to a lack of social housing?

In what possible way is it unfair?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's unfair to suggest that a right-"leaning" private landlord is probably happy about there being more money in the private rental business due to a lack of social housing?

In what possible way is it unfair?

If you'd said it like that in the first place, nothing, if this time you had also taken out the right - leaning bit. (thanks DM, I missed that!)

[DemolitionRed]

Being a landlord or a tenant has nothing to do with being right or left wing. To suggest such a thing goes to show how pointless this sort of debate is.

Don't shoot me but I used to be an estate agent for a well known and apparently reputable company As well as sales we did rentals and so I saw first hand how the scams worked. Yes you get some awful landlords and yes you get some equally awful tenants but the biggest evil in property rentals are the agents running full management contracts. I once wrote but never got round to publishing a document aimed at tenants and landlords regarding how their letting agent could and likely would screw them over.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Being a landlord or a tenant has nothing to do with being right or left wing. To suggest such a thing goes to show how pointless this sort of debate is.

Don't shoot me but I used to be an estate agent for a well known and apparently reputable company As well as sales we did rentals and so I saw first hand how the scams worked. Yes you get some awful landlords and yes you get some equally awful tenants but the biggest evil in property rentals are the agents running full management contracts. I once wrote but never got round to publishing a document aimed at tenants and landlords regarding how their letting agent could and likely would screw them over.

To be fair, with one of my "bad landlords" I'm pretty sure that 90% of the problem was miscommunication via the rental company. Everything we got via them sounded short and snippy, whereas when the guy actually came round he was always helpful and pleasant. And yet we had major issues getting our deposit back (with ridiculous claims like £100 for cleaning the kitchen when I had spend every night after work for a week going back to the house to make sure it was immaculate) and that was all handled via the rental company.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be fair, with one of my "bad landlords" I'm pretty sure that 90% of the problem was miscommunication via the rental company. Everything we got via them sounded short and snippy, whereas when the guy actually came round he was always helpful and pleasant. And yet we had major issues getting our deposit back (with ridiculous claims like £100 for cleaning the kitchen when I had spend every night after work for a week going back to the house to make sure it was immaculate) and that was all handled via the rental company.

Sounds familiar unfortunately. I would advise anyone who's looking to rent to insist on knowing the landlord and any landlord looking for tenants to know their tenants. Agents don't want you knowing each other because you may just find out that you are both being scammed.

Even though deposits are protected, when left in the hands of an agent, they may try and hold on to it. Its always a good idea to take photographs when you enter the property and again before you leave. Its the same with infantries. Both landlords and tenants need to scrutinize before signing and keep a copy for themselves.