[lily.]

God, you can be so arrogant sometimes. Just because you say it does not make it fact G.

I say David Beckham is the most beautiful man in the world. Does that make it a fact? No. It makes it my opinion. Learn the difference!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by kristen1985

Really?
I disagree I love all the clothes she wears. I love it how she mixes colours and is sometimes dressed down and dressed up.
She always has bold colours and prints and I respect her for that!

Bold colours? Some might say garish.

[Kristen]

Originally posted by GiRTh

Bold colours? Some might say garish.

I'm not one for bold colours. I prefer simple hues. Like yesterday my friend was wearing just a black top and a necklace with brown boots and I thought she looked absolutely fierce.

[GiRTh]

Fierce? Are you a dancer?

[lily.]

Definition of Fierce:

1. menacingly wild, savage, or hostile: fierce animals; a fierce look.
2. violent in force, intensity, etc.: fierce winds.
3. furiously eager or intense: fierce competition.
4. Informal. extremely bad or severe: a fierce cold.


I suppose #4 could apply to her singing then..

[Kristen]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Fierce? Are you a dancer?

Used to but not very good.
My friend Liv is a fabulous dancer and I am so jelous. I'm not very coordinated. Bad at sport which probs explains why I hate it.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Stropz
God, you can be so arrogant sometimes. Just because you say it does not make it fact G.

I say David Beckham is the most beautiful man in the world. Does that make it a fact? No. It makes it my opinion. Learn the difference!

Not this old chestnut again. Have you any idea how many times I’ve had this discussion with people.

Sometimes it is not about opinions sometimes it’s there for everybody to see. Example – If I was to say that Christiano Ronaldo can’t play football in my opinion. What would you think of my opinion? You’d respect my opinion but conclude that I didn’t know what I was on about. Well I would any way. This is the same. It’s clear that Prince is immensely talented. Anyone can see it.

[lily.]

Now, here's where I pick your argument apart. Find a post where I said that Prince is not talented.

You can't can you? No. Because I did not say that ever. I said I don't like him. I said he's pretentious. I said he's a twat. I said he's a tit.

So, what's your argument again?

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Stropz
Now, here's where I pick your argument apart. Find a post where I said that Prince is not talented.

You can't can you? No. Because I did not say that ever. I said I don't like him. I said he's pretentious. I said he's a t***. I said he's a tit.

So, what's your argument again?

OK you got me. It's a fair cop. You did comment that you grudginly agree with Dan so I think there is a lack of respect on your part

[lily.]

A lack of respect?? Interesting.

What we have here is a situation where you class my personal opinion on the man as a person to be a slur on his ability to do his job. That is not the case.

We could compare this to another famous person I dislike: Michael Jackson. Clearly he has talent and clearly he creates something special or else he wouldn't be moving CDs like shite off a shovel for the last 20-odd years. However, I don't like his music. I don't like his style. And, I don't particularly like him as a person. I don't dispute that he has talent. I just don't appreciate the talent he has, because quite simply "it's not my cup of tea".

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Stropz
A lack of respect?? Interesting.

What we have here is a situation where you class my personal opinion on the man as a person to be a slur on his ability to do his job. That is not the case.

We could compare this to another famous person I dislike: Michael Jackson. Clearly he has talent and clearly he creates something special or else he wouldn't be moving CDs like s**** off a shovel for the last 20-odd years. However, I don't like his music. I don't like his style. And, I don't particularly like him as a person. I don't dispute that he has talent. I just don't appreciate the talent he has, because quite simply "it's not my cup of tea".

Dont be ridiculous. You're allowed to like what you want to like but to simply focus on the way he looks is easy and lazy.

[lily.]

I'm not simply focusing on the way he looks. If you bother to focus for more than your usual 10 second attention span (talking of lazy), then you will note that I mention his attitude more than I mention his looks.

[GiRTh]

His attitude is a bi productof his talent. I've got to say, if I was as talented as he I'd be just as wierd. Do you understand talent Lind. Do you really truly totally understand talent.

[Kristen]

Now come on you two. No need for this. We don’t want a split in the over 30’s clique.

[lily.]

Originally posted by GiRTh
His attitude is a bi productof his talent. I've got to say, if I was as talented as he I'd be just as wierd. Do you understand talent Lind. Do you really truly totally understand talent.

Yes dear. I understand talent. Do you understand arrogance? You demonstrate it from time to time yourself G.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Stropz

Yes dear. I understand talent. Do you understand arrogance. You demonstrate it from time to time yourself G.

Good one.

Personally I don't think you do understand talent. I think I've got a bit of an idea but I don't think many people truly understand what it's like to be better at something than everybody else.

As for your arragance remark - Define arrogant? I don't think you know what it means.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by Markus™
Well seeing as this news is from a site called "the bosh" no wonder it's fake.

It was reported on other newspaper sites too. I checked. This was just the first one I found.

Originally posted by Sophii3x
God, some of you must really hate her to like the idea of her being humiliated.

I don't hate her at all. I never met her she could be a really nice person. I not about go about hating people I don't know. That would be silly. I dislike what she represents and the lifestyle she shows to young people who read celebrity magazines which never dare to criticize or question the morals of some of these so called celebrities.

Originally posted by kristen1985
This story sounds false.
I'm a Paris fan so I'll support her. I like her songs and she may not have the best voice but that's no reason to criticise her.

Sorry if you think its false, it might be. You know what the rumor machine that surrounds these people is like. It was reported in more than one place but it might have had just the one source. All the same I did find the idea funny.

As for criticizing her she opens herself up for that if you want to walk in the public light and have yourself all over the papers and magazines then you are going to get criticized. There is not much you can do about it. It goes with the job and she is quite easy to have a go at on looks alone. Even fans of her must accept that.

[lily.]

Arrogance (Definition): Making claims or pretensions to superior importance or rights; overbearingly assuming; insolently proud.

My definition of it with regards to calling you arrogant is that you sometimes come across as Mr All-knowing. You diss and dismiss other people's opinions if they don't concur with your own, and are almost aloof in ur tone at times.

Of course I don't know what it's like to be superior at something. I don't have a unique talent. I'm not exceptional at any one thing. However, I could think of one or two people who are, and who don't act in a pretentious manner.

Also, I never said he shouldn't act in a pretentious manner. I merely stated that I dislike him because of it. Whether he has the "right" to act that way because of his talent is really neither here nor there. We live in a free society and he may act however he chooses. Just as I may like or dislike him if I so desire.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Red Moon

It was reported on other newspaper sites too. I checked. This was just the first one I found.

This is true. I read this article somewhere recently before Red posted it.

[GiRTh]

So given your definition of arrogant - I'll ignore the personal attack - Would you say Muhammed Ali was arrogant or Michael Shumacher for that matter.

[lily.]

Michael Schumacher is arrogant. I can't speak for Ali, because to be perfectly honest, I don't know a great deal about him. But Schumacher is arrogant. There's no denying he's good at what he does, but he doesn't have to behave as though he's above everyone else.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Stropz
Michael Schumacher is arrogant. I can't speak for Ali, because to be perfectly honest, I don't know a great deal about him. But Schumacher is arrogant. There's no denying he's good at what he does, but he doesn't have to behave as though he's above everyone else.

Interesting. The reason I chose those two is cos I don't agree with that definiton of arrogance even if you got it from dictionary.com. For me, both of these guys backed up every claim they made. So, for me, these guys are simply confident and cocky, and I dont see anything wrong with that. Which brings us back to me, I think I'm a confident guy and I resent you calling me arrogant.

[lily.]

Would you like me to apologise ?

[lily.]

Oh, and interesting how you use the word "cocky".

Dictionary.com lists this definition: arrogant; pertly self-assertive; conceited

Would you like a shovel, or will you manage to dig a deeper hole without one G?

[GiRTh]

What would I apologise for? Always being right?