[Eddie.]

can we all come to an agreement that BB4 is the worst season of BB.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

Why would you remove the best housemate?

Originally Posted by Raph

Yes Joel is the best non-BB18 channel 5 housemate Joel's my dude!!

**** off back to your fanclub you tasteless swines

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Eddie.

can we all come to an agreement that BB4 is the worst season of BB.

I would have said BB4 before BB16 happened, but the week or so we had Lisa Jeynes lifts it slightly above imo

Originally Posted by Oaker

BB16, because;

-The worst twist in Big Brother history happens on Day 18 which completely ruins the flow of the series and puts an end to what where actually a really good first 2 weeks.
-Marc was in the series.
-The "BB Legends" come in and completely overtake the series, making the original cast background characters for 2 weeks (even worse is the fact that they were originally only meant to be there for 1 week but the producers extended it so they could put Aisleyne in).
-Once Helen/Nikki leave the following week is basically just Marc vs Aisleyne every day over and over again.
-There were four rounds of nominations total. 2 of those were face-to-face, 1 was for a fake eviction, and another was reversed.
-The nomination twists were somehow worse than BB15's which stupid stuff like Nominations tag and having to run to a button the fastest to nominate...
-It was the 6th series in 2 years to have a fake eviction, which made the fake eviction completely pointless since everyone knew it was fake because of how often the twist was used.
-The male cast was one of the worst ever. The best male was Simon which really says something about the quality.
-The series basically reset 3 times (Post 4in4out, legends week, post-Marc) which meant there were hardly any consistent or interesting storylines.
-The trend of ejections for attention started here.
-The twist at the final double was one of the worst ever and completely unfair to whoever was evicted, didn't help that it happened to be one of the better ones left.

There's probably more things but it's 1am and I wrote this all on the spot and from memory so

All of this. Except I didn't even enjoy the first couple of weeks tbh, and I'd add Simon's launch night eviction to the list of things that were awful. Not because it was Simon but just the twist itself whoever it'd been, the randomness of it, the fact that the voters weren't told that the housemates they were voting for might be evicted - just that something bad would happen to them (iirc?), a real low point in the whole BB franchise and to start the series off that way was an awful idea... just for the novelty of being able to say they were doing something that had never been done before, rather than because it was something that would actually benefit the series, just terrible production. At least with BB4 production made some good decisions (even if it was still a bad series because of the overall cast and eviction order).

[Eddie.]

Well I liked the BB4 house...but, overall I think casting was terrible except for Anouska, Jon, Lisa and Tania (maybe). Also it was very gimmicky. Everything from the Double Eviction to Cam's trip to Africa set the stepping stones for the BB we know today, so I feel just a bit thankful for that series, but still my worse. The bomb scare, however, I think was not a set-up btw
Unpopular Opinion:
I actually enjoyed BB16...

[looper007]

Originally Posted by EddieGoesFestive

can we all come to an agreement that BB4 is the worst season of BB.

I loved BB4 No joke, i think it's one of the more underrated shows. The Winner was crap, and yeah the last week or two wasn't great but it was the last time we had normal people in the house who didn't act OTT or went in to get Glamour model shoots or fake romances. It's not great but it's nowhere as bad as some people make out.

Losing Anouska early was a disaster she had so much potential but she did go in the first night way to OTT and didn't play it safe. I don't think she would have won it but i think she could have bought a little bit of fun and upheaval to the house. Ray i think was a underrated BB housemate and was one of the few that had a bit of fun. Losing Jon and Fred early was a massive hit to BB4, even the producers knew it when they threw Jon in again near the end. The Wrong housemate in Cameron went to the South African house. But the South African housemate did bring a bit of spike to the house, his moment with Tania as probably the highlight of the show

[Eddie.]

Originally Posted by looper007

I loved BB4 No joke, i think it's one of the more underrated shows. The Winner was crap, and yeah the last week or two wasn't great but it was the last time we had normal people in the house who didn't act OTT or went in to get Glamour model shoots or fake romances. It's not great but it's nowhere as bad as some people make out.

Losing Anouska early was a disaster she had so much potential but she did go in the first night way to OTT and didn't play it safe. I don't think she would have won it but i think she could have bought a little bit of fun and upheaval to the house. Ray i think was a underrated BB housemate and was one of the few that had a bit of fun. Losing Jon and Fred early was a massive hit to BB4, even the producers knew it when they threw Jon in again near the end. The Wrong housemate in Cameron went to the South African house. But the South African housemate did bring a bit of spike to the house, his moment with Tania as probably the highlight of the show

I would like to know where you watched BB4! The cast selection lacked diversity...and I found Ray as an overrated HM, based on clips, I found him SUPER annoying...but I actually do think Cameron was a worthy winner...same way I feel with Aaron and Jason...he's just so likable...!

[Gstar]

11 and 12

[Eddie.]

BB12 is so underrated, it actually hurts, I think I can get y.winter to agree with me on that!

[reece(:]

BB2 is close for worst, Narinder lasted a week less than my BB4 series fave

[LukeB]

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[looper007]

Originally Posted by EddieGoesFestive

I would like to know where you watched BB4! The cast selection lacked diversity...and I found Ray as an overrated HM, based on clips, I found him SUPER annoying...but I actually do think Cameron was a worthy winner...same way I feel with Aaron and Jason...he's just so likable...!

I watched it on youtube around a year or so ago, seems like it's been taken down. They had every one of them up that's why I'm somewhat remembering the C4 years a bit better now.


I thought Cameron could be a miserable sod at times, while he was pining for the other bore Steph. Her, Cameron and Gos got to go down as three of the most boring housemates ever, but they were sly too. I think Cameron showed more personality in the South African house. But it wasn't a lot either . I never understood why many loved him for.

Ray was actually one of the only housemates who wanted to have a little fun. His chats with Scott at nights on Live feed were better then most of BB4.

BB4 cast could have done without Gos, Nush, Justine and Sissy in the house. I let Scott of the hook cause when he was with Ray he was fun. How they made it I never know. Letting them bring in books was a massive mistake (thank god they got rid of that). I'd put Gos down as one of the worse BB housemates ever. I think if they kept Anouska (I know she gets slightly overrated on here about what impact she would have had but I do think she would have bought a little danger to it), Fed and Jon a little longer.

I think Tania had potential if she was in a house with more liked minded people. I did love Lisa the crazy new housemate that came in later, if tey replaced her with Nush or Justine. She probably would have given the house the villain it need.

Would have been nice to see a Victor BB5 type in that house, someone who mixed it up a little. It lacked a villain for me.

[Eddie.]

Originally Posted by reece(:

BB2 is close for worst, Narinder lasted a week less than my BB4 series fave

has got to be the stunning Tania!

[Eddie.]

According to Winter, he said that he has BB1 and BB4. Hope he uploads them soon, only two civilian series I haven't watched before...

[looper007]

Originally Posted by EddieGoesFestive

According to Winter, he said that he has BB1 and BB4. Hope he uploads them soon, only two civilian series I haven't watched before...

I still think Channel 4 could upload a lot of the BB series 1 to 11 onto YouTube, every highlight Episode, Eviction with Interviews and The Final onto playlists. It would be a nice thing to do as it would stop people uploading them. But sadly I think Channel 4 is ashamed of the show and we will only see the show by people been nice enough to upload them.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by EddieGoesFestive

has got to be the stunning Tania!

A legend!

[Eddie.]

Originally Posted by looper007

I still think Channel 4 could upload a lot of the BB series 1 to 11 onto YouTube, every highlight Episode, Eviction with Interviews and The Final onto playlists. It would be a nice thing to do as it would stop people uploading them. But sadly I think Channel 4 is ashamed of the show and we will only see the show by people been nice enough to upload them.

every series, with the exclusion of BB1, BB2 and BB4 are uploaded in full, on YT...

[y.winter]

BB16 for all the reasons that were mentioned. The production was a catastrophe.

Originally Posted by EddieGoesFestive

BB12 is so underrated, it actually hurts, I think I can get y.winter to agree with me on that!

I must agree on that. BB12 is terribly underrated/hated/misjudged because of the C5 trauma. I'll write a full separated thread about the entire series after I finish watching it this month.