[Josy]

I think a lot of these things that are described as luxuries really aren't depending on who you talk to, if people are out working hard to pay for this and want to keep doing so to enjoy stuff then that's their choice really

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Josy

I think a lot of these things that are described as luxuries really aren't depending on who you talk to, if people are out working hard to pay for this and want to keep doing so to enjoy stuff then that's their choice really

It should be. Unfortunately we live in a consumer society, where from a young age we are all encouraged to spend, spend, spend. Borrowing is cheap and encouraged... debt is what a lot of people are living off.

[DemolitionRed]

It was William Gladstone's policies that brought about our first council houses in 1893 and by the late 1970s more than two-fifths or just over 40% of the British population enjoyed local authority housing.
Then Thatcher comes along and starts the long road of dismantling it all. Now we have 23% of our nation renting from private landlords (That's double of what it was in 2003) and whilst the numbers steadily increase, the hope of ever being able to afford to buy decreases.

It appears we have gone full circle. Back to Victorian era where people privately rented and few could afford to buy.

So many people are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Families units are divided because of affordability in housing. Young couples who want to settle down and perhaps start a family often have to move hundreds of miles away from their parents and grandparents.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

It was William Gladstone's policies that brought about our first council houses in 1893 and by the late 1970s more than two-fifths or just over 40% of the British population enjoyed local authority housing.
Then Thatcher comes along and starts the long road of dismantling it all. Now we have 23% of our nation renting from private landlords (That's double of what it was in 2003) and whilst the numbers steadily increase, the hope of ever being able to afford to buy decreases.

It appears we have gone full circle. Back to Victorian era where people privately rented and few could afford to buy.

So many people are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Families units are divided because of affordability in housing. [B]Young couples who want to settle down and perhaps start a family often have to move hundreds of miles away from their parents and grandparents.

Yep I had to move to another country in in the 90s so what is new?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Cherie

[/B]
Yep I had to move to another country in in the 90s so what is new?

Whats new is, its happening more and more. House prices started to rocket in the late 80s and have continued rocketing ever since.

And Londons and its outskirts are a big place. should all the young lower earners move out of London, Surrey, and Herefordshire? and how far away do they need to move before they can afford the most basic of roofs over their heads?

Think about what those families give up.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Whats new is, its happening more and more. House prices started to rocket in the late 80s and have continued rocketing ever since.

And Londons and its outskirts are a big place. should all the young lower earners move out of London, Surrey, and Herefordshire? and how far away do they need to move before they can afford the most basic of roofs over their heads?

Think about what those families give up.

Your post seemed to suggest that having to move away from families is a new thing, it has been thus for decades, it is never a good thing but sometimes it is just the only way people can get on, I am waiting on our London Mayor to fulfil his promise of affordable housing

http://www.sadiq.london/homes_for_londoners_manifesto

[Northern Monkey]

All kinds of **** tbh.Petrol and insurance for a sporty car I don’t need,Cable TV,Movies,Netflix,Lottery the list goes on.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

All kinds of **** tbh.Petrol and insurance for a sporty car I don’t need,Cable TV,Movies,Netflix,Lottery the list goes on.

early mid life crisis

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Cherie

early mid life crisis

Lol more like never grew up.I’ve always had cars that go faster than i need.Having a family should’ve changed that but.... nope.

[Vicky.]

I spend so much money on crap. I know I do. It just seems to all go though. I probably spend at least a tenner a day in useless stuff like sweets, magazines and such.

Always thought I did well only spending a hundred quid a fortnight on shopping. Then wondered how I was so skint. Turns out once corner shop crap is all paid for too I actually spend like 120 or so per week :S

[smudgie]

Some kids just love living with their parents, we have told son we are downsizing when we move to bungalow and time he flys the nest, then beggar me our daughter has decided she would like a stint at home

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Some kids just love living with their parents, we have told son we are downsizing when we move to bungalow and time he flys the nest, then beggar me our daughter has decided she would like a stint at home

Is he hanging on by his fingernails Smudgie

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Is he hanging on by his fingernails Smudgie

He is.
I have told him it's a two bedroomed bungalow with a lovely dining room*cough*
Only half a fib as once we convert the garage to an en-suite for me then that third bedroom will become part of a kitchen/diner extension.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by smudgie

He is.
I have told him it's a two bedroomed bungalow with a lovely dining room*cough*
Only half a fib as once we convert the garage to an en-suite for me then that third bedroom will become part of a kitchen/diner extension.

Time for him to fly the nest

[Wizard.]

Yes because I’ll just stop buying nice things that help me enjoy life just to save up for a house which will carry on increasing in price as I save or I could die just before I get to enjoy it then I suffered for nothing

[DemolitionRed]

I've got this American friend who works in France and she tells us all she's middle upper class.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I've got this American friend who works in France and she tells us all she's middle upper class.

What even is class any more

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What even is class any more

God only knows...or even cares

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by smudgie

God only knows...or even cares

I certainly don't!

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What even is class any more

If you have an 'Eternal beau' collection that is more than 80% complete you're middle class.

[Wizard.]

I will never stop shopping at M&S and Waitrose I love living in excess luxury

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Riley.

I will never stop shopping at M&S and Waitrose I love living in excess luxury

You can't beat good quality.

[smudgie]

I honestly don't have a clue what my monthly expenditure is, I do know it varies depending on how I feel

[Marsh.]

Cherie and Kizzy. Never change.

[bots]

The majority of people have finite budgets and its entirely up to individuals how they choose to prioritise and spend their surplus cash. If someone wants to blow it on a nice car, that's their choice, if someone wants a nice phone, thats their choice. If someone wants to save for a house, that's their choice. It's been the same for generations. We all have our own priorities and very few get all they want handed to them on a plate