[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

*river

I know, I was gonna put "Lake in Ireland" but I thought that'd be too obscure!

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I know. It's not as though people who are LGTBQ have anything to fear at all. 50 years ago homosexuality wasn't even illegal.

LGBT*

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

50 YEARS it took for her to decide 50 YEARS !!

The irony is it's attitudes like yours that has contributed to that length of time.

[Osjama]

Originally Posted by Jack_

The irony is it's attitudes like yours that has contributed to that length of time.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I know, I was gonna put "Lake in Ireland" but I thought that'd be too obscure!


LGBT*

No I was right the first time.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No I was right the first time.

Queer just means gay, and there's already G. If we start being silly and including things like Q, you might end up with something like LGBTTQQFAGPBDSM. I find the fact it has "fag" in it slightly amusing. Maybe some of the identities should have been in a different order...

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Jack_

The irony is it's attitudes like yours that has contributed to that length of time.

It's easy to stand in judgement when outside a situation.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Queer just means gay, and there's already G. If we start being silly and including things like Q, you might end up with something like LGBTTQQFAGPBDSM. I find the fact it has "fag" in it slightly amusing. Maybe some of the identities should have been in a different order...

Queer does not just mean gay. It even has its own strand of social theory

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Queer just means gay, and there's already G. If we start being silly and including things like Q, you might end up with something like LGBTTQQFAGPBDSM. I find the fact it has "fag" in it slightly amusing. Maybe some of the identities should have been in a different order...

I don't give two frigs what you think.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Queer does not just mean gay. It even has its own strand of social theory

So it's an umbrella term - such a shame we don't have a four letter acronym to cover people who are not heterosexual and/or not cisgender

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I don't give two frigs what you think.

Oh noes.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Its like they've just stuck a wig on him !! Her face is still not feminine

It's weird looking at old pictures, and yeah her face is still the same
Even Courtney is a better transformation as a drag queen.

I didn't know her as a man and I only know her as a woman because she's causing havoc in BB, I'd never heard of India Willoughby prior .

[riceflick]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

I'm a straight man, but I wouldn't marry a guy.

Maybe there's a relationship between straight men not getting gay-married and the fact that there's there's absolutely zero societal pressure for straight men to hide their sexual orientation

[Crimson Dynamo]

oh that man lost 750k putting his money in some ISle of Man bank so he could be even more greedy

what a shame

never mind

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Jarvio

Any links of videos of India in her former life as Jonathan? Genuinely interested to observe the transformation etc

[Oliver_W]

Why are people talking about her face? Facial feminisation surgery isn't often available on the NHS, and it's expensive. Author Juno Dawson was saying the total for hers would be £50k, and her face was more naturally effeminate than India's, so there'd be less work to do on it.

The most change we'd see in India would be softening of features, through her HRT, though it might not make much difference at her age.