[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I half expected Andrew to hug Daniel and tell him that

[rusticgal]

Jonny didn't strop off....I just think Jonny is a less selfish person. I think he was just telling Andrew the right thing to do would be to save someone other than yourself...not only is it a nice gesture it gains you a bit of respect and brownie points with the public.
It is a game...and saving yourself is a natural thing to want to do...does he doubt his support?...the only thing he would achieve by saving himself is more airtime..more exposure. There is no winners prize. Trouble is buying himself more airtime is a negative rather than a positive because the guy is a bigger dick by the day....so you see Jonny's advice was the best advice he's ever had

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Jonny didn't strop off....I just think Jonny is a less selfish person. I think he was just telling Andrew the right thing to do would be to save someone other than yourself...not only is it a nice gesture it gains you a bit of respect and brownie points with the public.
It is a game...and saving yourself is a natural thing to want to do...does he doubt his support?...the only thing he would achieve by saving himself is more airtime..more exposure. There is no winners prize. Trouble is buying himself more airtime is a negative rather than a positive because the guy is a bigger dick by the day....so you see Jonny's advice was the best advice he's ever had

[Kazanne]

I actually liked Johnny in that conversation ,it showed he was not happy with Andrews constant put downs and thinking he knows everything,shows Johnny wont follow the twonk .

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I actually liked Johnny in that conversation ,it showed he was not happy with Andrews constant put downs and thinking he knows everything,shows Johnny wont follow the twonk .

Yes, that was an interesting development. He'd clearly had enough.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Yes, that was an interesting development. He'd clearly had enough.

But why should Andrew save Daniel, when he nominated him? I wouldn't save someone who put me up for eviction.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But why should Andrew save Daniel, when he nominated him? I wouldn't save someone who put me up for eviction.

I don't think Daniel walked away because of that but because of the manner in which Andrew speaks to him. Andrew is pretty dismissive if Jonny and tends to talk at or over him. That's what I think Jonny had had enough of, and why he left.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I don't think Daniel walked away because of that but because of the manner in which Andrew speaks to him. Andrew is pretty dismissive if Jonny and tends to talk at or over him. That's what I think Jonny had had enough of, and why he left.

The edit is not how it happened at all. I watched live feed and Johnny came back. He was only upset because Andrew wouldn't save Daniel.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I don't think Daniel walked away because of that but because of the manner in which Andrew speaks to him. Andrew is pretty dismissive if Jonny and tends to talk at or over him. That's what I think Jonny had had enough of, and why he left.

Andrew enjoys the sound of his own voice !!! He's a ignorant pig .

I'll never forget how nice as pie he was when he first entered when he was trying hard to fool his hm's into thinking he was decent , I could see through the sleaze bag from then .

He was trying too hard to the point where it was cringy , thought he was going to massage India next as he was grovelling like a loser so much at the fear she'd nominate him .

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But why should Andrew save Daniel, when he nominated him? I wouldn't save someone who put me up for eviction.

I don't think it was because of that though Vanessa,I just think Johnny knows how bad Andrew is coming across,maybe he doesn't want to be seen as condoning it or agreeing with it.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I don't think it was because of that though Vanessa,I just think Johnny knows how bad Andrew is coming across,maybe he doesn't want to be seen as condoning it or agreeing with it.

Yes, I agree with this. I think you've hit the nail on the head.

[Patricia4]

In this game you should save yourself..

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Patricia4

In this game you should save yourself..

This! Those who say they wouldn't are just trying to look good to the public. It's so transparent!

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

This! Those who say they wouldn't are just trying to look good to the public. It's so transparent!

It depends on the person. If your instant thought is "oh I've got to save myself" then that's selfish IMO , I'd want to save someone who deserves it and then I'd think maybe about saving myself but it wouldn't be my first thought.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

This! Those who say they wouldn't are just trying to look good to the public. It's so transparent!

But isn't that the point of the game- to gain public approval. I think the whole point Jonny was trying to make was that it would look bad to the public if he saved himself rather than someone else. Andrew then focused on reasons for not saving Daniel when that wasn't really the point Jonny was making. Andrew just presumed that because he was too busy talking to listen carefully enough.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Garfie

But isn't that the point of the game- to gain public approval. I think the whole point Jonny was trying to make was that it would look bad to the public if he saved himself rather than someone else. Andrew then focused on reasons for not saving Daniel when that wasn't really the point Jonny was making. Andrew just presumed that because he was too busy talking to listen carefully enough.

But if he did that the public would call him fake.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But if he did that the public would call him fake.

We already know Andrew is fake AF

[bots]

Jonny didnt get in a strop, he simply stated that the public may not view Andrew saving himself kindly. Which is true. If Andrew chooses not to take his advice its up to him. Not sure how it can be seen as a big deal

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Jonny didnt get in a strop, he simply stated that the public may not view Andrew saving himself kindly. Which is true. If Andrew chooses not to take his advice its up to him. Not sure how it can be seen as a big deal

BB should turn the tables and still have Andrew up for eviction , he's a selfish pig with a big irritating fat mouth !!! .

[bots]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

BB should turn the tables and still have Andrew up for eviction , he's a selfish pig with a big irritating fat mouth !!! .

if andrew were to save himself from this eviction, its a certainty that all the hm's would nominate him for the next, so I just can't get excited about the prospect of Andrew saving himself

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

if andrew were to save himself from this eviction, its a certainty that all the hm's would nominate him for the next, so I just can't get excited about the prospect of Andrew saving himself

He needs to go this Friday! . He shouldn't be allowed to save himself, I keep hoping for a nice twist to upset him and make him lose his place in the house .

[Vanessa]

I still think that if you have the chance you should save yourself. And that goes for all the housemates.

[jaxie]

I wonder what Jonny would think of Andrew if he knew Andrew was one of those who put Daniel up in the first place.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I wonder what Jonny would think of Andrew if he knew Andrew was one of those who put Daniel up in the first place.

I thought it was Daniel that put Andrew up....I don't think Andrew nominated Daniel?

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I thought it was Daniel that put Andrew up....I don't think Andrew nominated Daniel?

They put each other up.