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wait people are nasty on Twitter?
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I watched it it in full
last week. Maybe it was a interview that he got the better hand............. |
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I'll watch this later tonight if I can get settled enough, NM
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Peterson and Shapiro having a good old natter. |
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I do think because he is a psychologist, he had a huge advantage over her in turns of tuning into what she was saying and why she was saying it. I do agree with the video, that the interview was her tossing out positions to him that he didn't actually hold in order to trick him into defending it. That happens a lot in the news media. They are attempting to generate controversy, not get to the actual facts... but people looking for controversy in Peterson because they hear things like "alt-right" "white supremacist", they're not filtering for a difference in opinion, they are waiting to see if he will become defensive and lose his composure (does he have anything to hide?, etc) Also, clean your room! ![]() Quote:
This is quite good. I did all the way through and it covers a variety of topics. The discussion over theology was fascinating. Honestly, I love Rubin's chats because they're just so unplanned. You don't really know much of what they end up talking about by the end, it's like watching a rather normal conversation unfold between two people.
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I'm not going to watch the interview now as I'm kind of watching something Peterson recommends.
I recently finished his book '12 Rules for Life'. A relative gave it to me and I initially recoiled because Peterson is known to be alternative Right and religious... I'm neither. I'm glad I did read it though, I find a lot of his philosophical thinking around reforming capitalism and how in this neoliberal world we search for our individual self's (self realization) through consumerism, quite captivating. There's no doubt that Peterson believes the Right overlaps the Left. For example, both, in these divided ideologies voice opposition to corporate power; both condemn our financial system and both are trying to find a moral compass. There are a lot of things I don't agree with re his thinking but the way in which he thinks things out make for an inspirational read.
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The one thing Peterson can do is talk about the political left and the political right in a positive way. He's not offensive, he's not hostile, unless someone tries to twist his words and not address what he's actually saying, but instead take a small snippet of his dialogue and make an accusation that it meant something else. People use this rhetorical technique all the time. They do it on social media, they do it in interviews and we do it on here. When Peterson reacts, he's doing so because he sees this nonsense as needless devision.
Edited to add: I'm not about to become alternative Right but I'll continue to follow his very interesting views on life.
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Try reading his book. He's a confessed anti far left and embraces a lot of alternative right ideology. That's not far right, its alternative right.
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There are reports that someone did a survey and Peterson got like thirty times more abuse than her from her fans and feminists.
Only he didn’t ring the police to try and distract everyone from the content of the interview |
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It's the Marxist tactic. When you can't win the debate, play the victim.
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He doesn't dislike the progressive Left!! Progressive left come under the same umbrella as social democrats and social liberals.
"It's the Marxist tactic. When you can't win the debate, play the victim." Its this sort of comment that Peterson would rip you a new one for. You clearly don't understand how this man thinks.
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