[Jase.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

i'm not racist because i saved a black cat teas

[chuff me dizzy]

The Pink Post or whatever its name is is hardly the Times ..but moving on and back to my initial point ,if Ann was homophobic she would want rid of the gay hm8s, but she chose to save them ... no true homophobe would do that ,but keep digging

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LukeB

i'm not racist because i saved a black cat teas

Nice one.

Lord above,if she really has support for her dark ages views,all powers that be help us.

She gave condoms in prison because the govt.of the day rightly wanted it,fearing the massive costs oh healthcare that may come from hiv /aids related conditions or hiv itself.
A money decision,one which also helped her keep her position in govt.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Ja$e

According to vote monitoring website Public Whip, Widdecombe opposed every single equality measure for LGBT people during her 23 years in the corridors of power.

But she saved 2 gay men on Celebrity Big Brother so she CAN'T be a homophobe!!!!!1111111

Go to bed, love.

You love that word don't you "homophobe" , i swear it's the most overused word on here .

If we all are fed up of Ginuwine & Ashley's showmance aswell does that make us "Heterophobes" ?? seriously grow up .

I'm not even a big Ann fan but i'd rather she stayed over Andrew dickface and Shane J bitchface . Plus Ann and John for that matter aren't hateful people.

[Jase.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

You love that word don't you "homophobe" , i swear it's the most overused word on here .

If we all are fed up of Ginuwine & Ashley's showmance aswell does that make us "Heterophobes" ?? seriously grow up .

I'm not even a big Ann fan but i'd rather she stayed over Andrew dickface and Shane J bitchface . Plus Ann and John for that matter aren't hateful people.

homophobe

"a person with an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people."

"She has previously expressed support for ‘gay cure’ therapy and says people should have the ‘freedom’ to discriminate against gay couples."

Now that is an irrational aversion to homosexuality which therefore means Ann is homophobic?

Does your brain not compute that? I don't understand why it's so hard to grasp?

Why are you bringing up Ashley and Ginuwine? They're absolutely irrelevant to the point being made?

"Andrew dickface and Shane J bitchface" - ...are you 7?

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Yeah, she is so against gay sex that she fought for condoms for male prisoners.
She has said herself, she is against gay marriage, but not living together, it is the sacrament of marriage she wants to uphold due to her religious upbringing.

That was to protect straight rape victims in prison and came accross like she didn't want another aids epidemic imo.

She's old school nothing will change her mind and that's cool but she's gonna die a sad old lady.

[pontyboi]

Because Ann is a politician and knows what gets votes.

She's said on several occasions how uncomfortable she is with men not being real men and to use the word DISGUSTING if Shane j and Andrew shared a bed is unacceptable....how can you defend that? And don't bring her age into it....it's not age it's being brought up in a family who showed no emotion she is a frigging political robot.

I can't take this woman seriously anymore after her conversation with Amanda talking about how these youngsters were on the reality show to get fame with no talent......ANN YOURE ON THE SAME REALITY SHOW!

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

Because Ann is a politician and knows what gets votes.

She's said on several occasions how uncomfortable she is with men not being real men and to use the word DISGUSTING if Shane j and Andrew shared a bed is unacceptable....how can you defend that? And don't bring her age into it....it's not age it's being brought up in a family who showed no emotion she is a frigging political robot.

I can't take this woman seriously anymore after her conversation with Amanda talking about how these youngsters were on the reality show to get fame with no talent......ANN YOURE ON THE SAME REALITY SHOW!

[Marsh.]

How ironic calling the people seeing homophobia "closed minded".

I mean, WHAT?

[Withano]

I mean if there was a scale of homophobia, we could probably agree to put her at a 5 or 6. Nobody is suggesting shes going round torching them, but like take a look into her history and she clearly doesnt support equality for them in any way.

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by Withano

I mean if there was a scale of homophobia, we could probably agree to put her at a 5 or 6. Nobody is suggestion shes goong round torching them, but like take a look into her history and she clearly doesnt support equality for them in any way.

All we need to do is look at her facial expressions and body language and also blatant words such as "disgusting" to prove she is against the gays.

She has openly said gay people shouldn't be allowed to get married aswell.

Are viewers that stupid they can't see she's homophobic?

[Headie]

[Jase.]

She has previously expressed support for ‘gay cure’ therapy and says people should have the ‘freedom’ to discriminate against gay couples.

Ann's Crazies: "BUT SHE'S FRIENDS WITH WAYNE SLEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[Lilac hills]

Influence of divisive queen Ann tho ur faves could never,,,,,,,,,,,,

Also wtf is pink news lolol I wouldn’t trust anything written on there

[Philanthropite]

Honestly some people really can't see a bigger picture. Ann was an mp between the 80's and the 90's and her views are that of a stout geriatric Catholic. Same sex gay partnership was only decriminalised in 1967 in England and Wales and in the 80's in Scotland and Ireland. Her old age thinking is hardly something to critisize with such large clubs in the grand scheme of things.

I've met many Belgiums who, no matter what I say detest German's with a passion regardless of personality. Is it wrong in this day? Yes but who are we to critisize, especially when the German occupation of Belgium was so ruthless.

Not really sticking up for Ann and her views but open your eyes and stop the sheeple attitude. Like the housemates discussed in tonights episode... She's an old fuddy duddy with some prehistoric views. Except in this analogy she is a dinosaur and we can't expect everyone from an older time to snap to today's standard overnight.

I think her attitude is plenty forgivable because she's clearly not an evil person.

[Beso]

Shes explained her reasons for all those 3 votes in that inciteful rag in the house and not been kicked out for homophobia...bb is my judge.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I find it funny that a few "kids" in twitter have "discovered" that she is a "vile homphobe" but the gay guy living in the house with her and all the others havent?




go get dem pitchforks im young and iv found a cause and im angry and right and grrrr and when is my tea?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I find it funny that a few "kids" in twitter have "discovered" that she is a "vile homphobe" but the gay guy living in the house with her and all the others havent?




go get dem pitchforks im young and iv found a cause and im angry and right and grrrr and when is my tea?

spot on LT

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I find it funny that a few "kids" in twitter have "discovered" that she is a "vile homphobe" but the gay guy living in the house with her and all the others havent?




go get dem pitchforks im young and iv found a cause and im angry and right and grrrr and when is my tea?

"Discovered"?

She's never made any secret of the fact she believes homosexuals don't deserve equality with heterosexuals.

[Livia]

People are taking offence that Ann's against gay marriage, and think that entitles them to talk about her in the most disgusting ways. She's a Roman Catholic. That's her belief. She has a right to be against gay marriage... just like gay people now have the right to marry. Not everyone agrees with everything, all the time. She has said several times, and in plain English, that she has no problem with gay people... only with gay marriage.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

People are taking offence that Ann's against gay marriage, and think that entitles them to talk about her in the most disgusting ways. She's a Roman Catholic. That's her belief. She has a right to be against gay marriage... just like gay people now have the right to marry. Not everyone agrees with everything, all the time. She has said several times, and in plain English, that she has no problem with gay people... only with gay marriage.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

People are taking offence that Ann's against gay marriage, and think that entitles them to talk about her in the most disgusting ways. She's a Roman Catholic. That's her belief. She has a right to be against gay marriage... just like gay people now have the right to marry. Not everyone agrees with everything, all the time. She has said several times, and in plain English, that she has no problem with gay people... only with gay marriage.

Really,I think you maybe need to research her a bit more.

It wasn't in response to gay marriage last night,the question was THEY KNEW she didn't like gay marriage but did she like their love/attraction with each other.

She called that disgusting,nothing to do with gay marriage as you try to cloud it with now.

I love Ann as a housemate she will even get my votes to win.
You have in the past advocated religion shouldn't be be ramned down others throats.
Yet you try to likely justify her comment of disgusting to a possible,only possible gay affection relationship down to her religious views and the bigotry contained in said religion.
Which actually is the faith I was born into but which zi have challenged many times,on many issues in it.
As I would Ann for expressing such bigoted views publicly too.

She is either right to think 2 men loving each other is disgusting or wrong to.
I know which side I come down on.

I say again,the gay marriage bit was discounted by the questioner last night to her.
They accepted she was already against it.
This was as another member has repeatedly stated,a question about gay love.
Which Ann described as disgusting.

This is BB at its best,when people get tripped up to reveal their real thinking on issues as Ann was,I'm my view,clearly likely not yours since you are possibly justifying her stance she holds and why.

Religious orientated bigotry causes masses of problems,not religions themselves, just the extreme bigotry arising from same.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Really,I think you maybe need to research her a bit more.

It wasn't in response to gay marriage last night,the question was THEY KNEW she didn't like gay marriage but did she like their love/attraction with each other.

She called that disgusting,nothing to do with gay marriage as you try to cloud it with now.

I love Ann as a housemate she will even get my votes to win.
You have in the past advocated religion shouldn't be be ramned down others throats.
Yet you try to likely justify her comment of disgusting to a possible,only possible gay affection relationship down to her religious views and the bigotry contained in said religion.
Which actually is the faith I was born into but which zi have challenged many times,on many issues in it.
As I would Ann for expressing such bigoted views publicly too.

She is either right to think 2 men loving each other is disgusting or wrong to.
I know which side I come down on.

I say again,the gay marriage bit was discounted by the questioner last night to her.
They accepted she was already against it.
This was as another member has repeatedly stated,a question about gay love.
Which Ann described as disgusting.

This is BB at its best,when people get tripped up to reveal their real thinking on issues as Ann was,I'm my view,clearly likely not yours since you are possibly justifying her stance she holds and why.

Religious orientated bigotry causes masses of problems,not religions themselves, just the extreme bigotry arising from same.

No, religion shouldn't be rammed down people's throats. But neither should people's beliefs be used as a stick with which to beat them.

Ann has been questioned time and time again in the house in the hopes that she will say something that people can latch on to. She is entitled to her beliefs... unless we're going to deny people that. We have hundreds of thousands, millions even, of people who adhere to a religion that regards homosexuality as wrong. My problem with this is twofold... 1) it seems like it's only ever Christians who are castigated for this, and, 2) if you ask someone the same question in a thousand different ways, you will eventually hear something you can pin your self-righteousness to. And that's exactly what people in the house have done.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

No, religion shouldn't be rammed down people's throats. But neither should people's beliefs be used as a stick with which to beat them.

Ann has been questioned time and time again in the house in the hopes that she will say something that people can latch on to. She is entitled to her beliefs... unless we're going to deny people that. We have hundreds of thousands, millions even, of people who adhere to a religion that regards homosexuality as wrong. My problem with this is twofold... 1) it seems like it's only ever Christians who are castigated for this, and, 2) if you ask someone the same question in a thousand different ways, you will eventually hear something you can pin your self-righteousness to. And that's exactly what people in the house have done.

That's a good and fair argument you have made.
One which Ann may well have made if challenged on the issue.

I am.voting for her on BB anyway,I think she's awesome in the house.
I just wish they'd stop pussyfooting around her and challenge her more.
She can and has always given as much as she gets and stands her ground.

You've made me re think a little on this actually.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

That's a good and fair argument you have made.
One which Ann may well have made if challenged on the issue.

I am.voting for her on BB anyway,I think she's awesome in the house.
I just wish they'd stop pussyfooting around her and challenge her more.
She can and has always given as much as she gets and stands her ground.

You've made me re think a little on this actually.

Maybe it's just the PDAs she's uncomfortable with? But I don't think Shane and Andrew have gone too far. They've just cuddled?