[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

by who, be specific?

Oh come on! there is so much one sided bias (that can work both ways) with mainstream media. It feels like every newspaper has an agenda that pushes their own political interests/beliefs. The only daily paper that calls out the lies… be it tactfully, is the Independent but even with this paper there isn't anything like enough critical thinking necessary to stop people being brain washed. People honestly do become the regular paper they read!
Mainstream media are full of opinions without facts. Nothings transparent and when its not transparent, its readers aren't able to make choices. I could sit and read the Daily Mails political section and quickly point out its superficial inaccuracies and I can do the same with The Guardian but what's the point?

[Beso]

Whats owen jones tweeting Demo?

[DemolitionRed]

If you choose to align yourself with the popular story. If you choose to believe it and adopt it as truth, then you make yourself very safe in the context of society and tribal living. Its like religion. If you want to be able to put reason to everything then religion supplies you with that, whereas science doesn't.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

If you choose to align yourself with the popular story. If you choose to believe it and adopt it as truth, then you make yourself very safe in the context of society and tribal living. Its like religion. If you want to be able to put reason to everything then religion supplies you with that, whereas science doesn't.

Scientists, tell you that..you were brainwashed from school.

[DemolitionRed]

I don't like Putin. I believe he's a thug and I believe his propaganda machine is worse than ours. But since Cameron took the throne we've been treating Russia (Putin) as the enemy. What happened in Ukraine was a reaction to EU expansion and although I still somewhat sit on the side of the EU and Washington, I fully understand why, when we encroached onto Russians Black Sea, there was a strong reaction from the Putin. Would the EU allow the UK to fall into Russian hands? Did Washington allow Cuba to align itself with Russia?!? What we were doing was weakening Russian borders. We now have NATO patrolling the Black Sea. Thats like Russia patrolling the English Channel!

As for Syria and the attempt to topple Assad. We aligned ourselves with Islamic jihadists and attempted to hand Syria over to Islamic State and we tried to do that, not because Assad is an evil dictator (which he possibly is) but because Syria aligns itself with Iran and Russia and had apposed a pipeline from the Gulf States to Europe.

If there's one thing I would praise Trump for, it was his initial attempt to reduce tension between Putin and the West. Perhaps he naively believed he could stop this drive on a new Cold War with Russia.

[JoshBB]

To be honest.. I can understand the comparison, but as Foreign Secretary, surely Boris could use a more diplomatic tone