[Sticks]

If these people do not have the documentation to prove right of residency then they should be removed forthwith, irrespective of how long they have been here. It is up to the individual to prove they have the right to stay.

It's the law.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Sticks

If these people do not have the documentation to prove right of residency then they should be removed forthwith, irrespective of how long they have been here. It is up to the individual to prove they have the right to stay.

It's the law.

Beep bop boop computer sez no.

[Kizzy]

Don't think it was deliberate?... Think again.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ays-ex-staffer

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Don't think it was deliberate?... Think again.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ays-ex-staffer

The Guardian clickbait - no thanks!

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

The Guardian clickbait - no thanks!

There you go, the torygraph...Better?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-2010-leaving/

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

There you go, the torygraph...Better?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-2010-leaving/

Yes but it was infact 2009
New Labour instructed the home office
to destroy the landing cards
took a year to do it.

We found out Live on PMQs

[Kizzy]

And we know this how? It wasn't labour policy to create a the 'hostile environment' policy though was it?

The tories implemented this knowing these people may have no other identifying papers and that with their immigration plans this for me was a very distinct ploy to avoid paying these people who have worked all their lives a pension.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

And we know this how? It wasn't labour policy to create a the 'hostile environment' policy though was it?

The tories implemented this knowing these people may have no other identifying papers and that with their immigration plans this for me was a very distinct ploy to avoid paying these people who have worked all their lives a pension.

Correct
it was New Labour 2009
and Conservatives -LibDems
after summer 2010

[Kizzy]

Where is the evidence?... We only have mays word this was actioned in 2009.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Where is the evidence?... We only have mays word this was actioned in 2009.

Home office records
of course

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43806710

[Kizzy]

They had been stored in a basement for decades but Downing Street says the UK Border Agency approved a business case in June 2009 to dispose of paper records, including the cards.

The decision to destroy the cards themselves was taken in October 2010, after the coalition came to power. Mrs May was not involved in the decision, which was taken at official level, said No 10.

My guess is she's lying... where is this 'case' from 2009?

[Kizzy]

Lies, lies and damned lies!!

Downing Street said new information was coming to light about the handling of the landing cards all the time, which was why there was a discrepancy between information given out on Tuesday and Wednesday.

But a Labour Party spokesman said the government's story was "shifting by the hour".

"First Downing Street claimed the decision to destroy the Windrush-era landing cards was made by the Home Office in 2010 for data protection reasons. Then the Home Office passed the buck to a 2010 decision by the UK Border Agency.

"At PMQs, the prime minister tried to shift the blame onto the last Labour government but was undermined by her own spokesperson minutes later, who then stated it was an operational decision, which Labour ministers would not have been aware of. Her spokesperson couldn't even say when the cards were destroyed."

Jacqui Smith, who was Labour home secretary until replaced by Alan Johnson in June 2009, told the BBC that it was "not a policy decision she had made". Mr Johnson also said he "had absolutely no recollection at all of being involved" in the landing card decision.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43806710

[Kizzy]

Spoiler:

[Tinsel Toes]

Originally Posted by parmnion

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...en-of-windrush

I actually have a few friends who are worried as their families came at that time and none of them have ever applied for passports so are they right to be worried ? what a complete cock up this is.

[Tinsel Toes]

Don't laugh at my edit - talk about dumb error !

[Kizzy]

Cue operation cover up...

Youtube video

[arista]

This started way back in 2006 with New Labour
in Power.
A Barbados black lady phoned into LBC Live Radio Andrew Castle show
Who said as she had a Barbados Passport arriving in the UK in 1975.
She confirmed on a return Holiday in 2006
the Passport Control in the UK , warned her not to travel again
as she would be sent back.




It appears any they did not have a UK passport
were getting trouble during New Labour Term


Sure Kizzy
The Conservative - LibDems of 2010
made it worse.

But its Very important the Whole Truth is out
the New Labour term started this Racist Action.

[Kizzy]

What is important is to keep the discussion in context, the 'hostile environment' as referred to by Labour was specifically aimed at criminals as shown here.

This strategy sets out how we will continue our efforts
to cut crime and make the UK a hostile environment
for those that seek to break our laws or abuse our
hospitality. It is divided into four mutually reinforcing
objectives that together form the basis of our renewed
approach to tackling criminal activity.
Our objectives:
Deter - Strengthening UK resilience against
immigration and cross border crime;
Disrupt - Breaking up criminal activities and
organised criminal groups;
Detect - Identifying and locating those
responsible for criminal activity and the smuggling
of illicit goods;

Nowhere are innocent people under any threat.

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.g...df?view=Binary

[Northern Monkey]

Yeah of course we should let them stay(aslong as they’re legal obvs).They’ve lived and worked and paid tax here for a long time.

[lime]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Yeah of course we should let them stay(aslong as they’re legal obvs).They’ve lived and worked and paid tax here for a long time.

WOW ...I'm sure you are not a racist....but just have a look at what you just posted..."we should let them stay"...They are British...where must they go?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by lime

WOW ...I'm sure you are not a racist....but just have a look at what you just posted..."we should let them stay"...They are British...where must they go?

These are the Windrush generation.This is why i said they should stay or in other words to answer the thread title directly there should be an amnesty.
I know they’re British because we(Britain) invited them over to stay and to be British citizens as kids.
It’s a mess and should never have happened.I think the problem the government are probably facing now after their cockup is locating these people and proving that everyone claiming to be from this generation are really who they say they are after they(the government) destroyed all the landing cards.They’ve created an admin nightmare for themselves which doesn’t look good as they now have to cross examine all these people to make sure they’re legit.Which is stressful for them obviously after they’ve contributed to the country for so many years.

[arista]

"Nowhere are innocent people under any threat."

Of course Kizzy
But New Labour
lost power due to Gordon Brown being PM.

But that Black Lady back in 2006
Framed her letter,
so to be Fair this all started with New Labour
then got far worse under Conservative - LibDems.
And carried on up to now,


Loads of innocents (not illegals)
to be solved and given proper UK documents.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

"Nowhere are innocent people under any threat."

Of course Kizzy
But New Labour
lost power due to Gordon Brown being PM.

But that Black Lady back in 2006
Framed her letter,
so to be Fair this all started with New Labour
then got far worse under Conservative - LibDems.
And carried on up to now,


Loads of innocents (not illegals)
to be solved and given proper UK documents.

Nope that was an over zealous UKBA official, nothing to do with labour or their policies.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Nope that was an over zealous UKBA official, nothing to do with labour or their policies.

But that Black Lady
talking about 2006 year.
Means it was New Labour in power
Blair infact.

Everything to do with who was in Power.

She carried on having trouble
it was not just one official.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

But that Black Lady
talking about 2006 year.
Means it was New Labour in power
Blair infact.

Everything to do with who was in Power.

She carried on having trouble
it was not just one official.

Well with no link it's hard to get a gauge of the situation to be fair.