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Old 31-10-2019, 01:31 PM #1
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...I still find it incredible that part 2 of a two part report is released without any context of part 1 ..which couldn’t be more relevant to lead to the fire fighting...it’s like giving half the second half of a story and then having to wait around a year for the first half...?...I can’t see that it’s been done for any other reason than to plant the seeds of ‘fire service at blame..’...in the minds of the public...it’s quite despicable and extremely unfair...
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Infuriating that the brave Men and Women who risked their lives that night are being thrown under the bus it seems. The people know the truth regardless. RBKC and The Tory party will forever have blood on their hands and they can try cover up their neglect whichever way they like, they can’t hide from the truth.
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Infuriating that the brave Men and Women who risked their lives that night are being thrown under the bus it seems. The people know the truth regardless. RBKC and The Tory party will forever have blood on their hands and they can try cover up their neglect whichever way they like, they can’t hide from the truth.
Blame the torys all you want...but labour refuted looking into the stay put policy in the 2 tragedies before grenfell.

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Rather insensitive but he does have a point...Im pretty sure I would have been making my own way out no matter what I was told.
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Rather insensitive but he does have a point...Im pretty sure I would have been making my own way out no matter what I was told.
The stairways were full of bodies because people did try and escape the building.

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Rather insensitive but he does have a point...Im pretty sure I would have been making my own way out no matter what I was told.
Well some of the reporting of this has been embellished as he didn't actually say those people "lacked" common sense ,infact I never heard him use that word at all, it was a thoughtless thing to say but don't think what was said ,was said maliciously as much as some people would like to paint it that way, he's apologised that's all he can do.
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One fire fighter amazed me last night..he was telling a story about going up to the 5th floor and having to turn back, as he was going back down the stairs he stood on 2 people and dragged them out saving them from certain death...the only thing he was bothered about was the fact he was tasked with going up to check a house on the 13th floor and didn't make it up to the 13th floor to save those people.
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Jfc, he’s a foul creature ain’t he
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What a despicable creature mogg is
What about the old, children and disabled? What about those cut off by flames and confused by smoke?
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What he failed to understand was this is a tower block with 30 floors if everyone stampeded out there could have been even more deaths, also the stairwell was full of smoke so if you were high up you could have died of smoke inhalation as many needed oxegen to get out alive.... yes of course if you were on the ground, first, second or third but as you got higher up, if you were infirm, disabled, had young kids..... absolute monster he is
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Yes he has said
Sorry for what he stated on LBC.
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Sorry for what he stated on LBC.
He's sorry because he's been called out on it, not because what he said was inappropriate to say the least.
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...isn't he fortunate that neither him or any of his family or loved ones had to live in a sub-standard building ...he’s despicable...
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No, dont ground him. Let him speak. We need to know how morally bankrupt he and his gang are.
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I'm loving this, the tide is turning no longer can tories get away with spreading bile... we won't tolerate it. For years we've been told that any tragedy that befalls us is our fault, Orgreave, Hillsborough and now Grenfell.
Sorry mogg it won't wash!
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...is this the fire in the student flats yesterday...?...I think two people suffered injuries from what my newsfeed said...but I hadn’t seen that footage...looking at that, it could easily have been an entirely different outcome...terrifying images..
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...is this the fire in the student flats yesterday...?...I think two people suffered injuries from what my newsfeed said...but I hadn’t seen that footage...looking at that, it could easily have been an entirely different outcome...terrifying images..
Yeah, there's loads of worse footage out there. Really fortunate if only 2 injuries with the speed that fire spreads like that.
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