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It's all related to representation of diversity on TV.
And both shows have had their issues with that for a long time.
I'm not against putting more deserving POC on TV to increase representation than the current white/POC split in USA.
Some past seasons of both shows didn't meet the same "76% white" criteria. We've had seasons with a much higher percentage than that yet we didn't hear white people say "oh that's too much, we need to respect the split by adding more POC". Never happened.
We all know a lot of acceptance, tolerance, diversity is through what we see on TV because it's normalizing stuff (ex: gay housemates on BB or any other shows back in the 2000s). It helps and I'm totally OK with that.
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It's all related to representation of diversity on TV.
And both shows have had their issues with that for a long time.
I'm not against putting more deserving POC on TV to increase representation than the current white/POC split in USA.
Some past seasons of both shows didn't meet the same "76% white" criteria. We've had seasons with a much higher percentage than that yet we didn't hear white people say "oh that's too much, we need to respect the split by adding more POC". Never happened.
We all know a lot of acceptance, tolerance, diversity is through what we see on TV because it's normalizing stuff (ex: gay housemates on BB or any other shows back in the 2000s). It helps and I'm totally OK with that.
We do! The upcoming series of IAC has only 1 black and 1 mixed raced out of 12, and you can find me on DS saying that's not enough. On a site where most people would disagree or just not care. Its not really that big of a deal either way, but it would be nice for IAC casts to become more diverse.

So yes it does go both ways!

Also its different with 'normalising' stuff because PoC are normalised anyway as well as the LGBTQ+ community. Back in the early 2000s a lot of people probably didn't know anyone openly gay or trans but I now I think its fair to say that most people in this country probably do. Let alone people of colour.

I'd actually personally like to see more Asian representation in the showbiz/TV world. Again the UK asian population compared to black is a lot higher and I bet you can name a lot more black British celebs than Asian ones!
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To be fair that is surprising that Tamar Braxton is the only black winner of BB US, is that right? I assumed it would be a lot more than that.

How many PoC's have won the 40+ seasons of Survivor?

Shows like the amazing race etc. it would be irrelevant though as that's based on pure skill and not popularity. From what I've seen of TAR though it seems pretty diverse anyway and that's only the early seasons.
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To be fair that is surprising that Tamar Braxton is the only black winner of BB US, is that right? I assumed it would be a lot more than that.

How many PoC's have won the 40+ seasons of Survivor?

Shows like the amazing race etc. it would be irrelevant though as that's based on pure skill and not popularity. From what I've seen of TAR though it seems pretty diverse anyway and that's only the early seasons.
Vecepia, Sandra x2, Yul, Earl, Natalie, Jeremy, Wendell
8 which is pretty representative of the population (20%)
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To be fair that is surprising that Tamar Braxton is the only black winner of BB US, is that right? I assumed it would be a lot more than that.

How many PoC's have won the 40+ seasons of Survivor?

Shows like the amazing race etc. it would be irrelevant though as that's based on pure skill and not popularity. From what I've seen of TAR though it seems pretty diverse anyway and that's only the early seasons.
Correct, but celebrity aside there are no black BBUS winners. And it’s disgusting. But as I explained earlier it’s a game of numbers and a reflection of society ... create a minority within a group of people and divisions will automatically form and they will be less likely to succeed. Level the playing field and have equal representation from all races, sexualities, genders etc and the results will begin to look a lot more diverse and representative.
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America is in a position where ignorance towards race and colour is shockingly high thanks to the rule of Trump, so although having 8 black people in a series of big brother isn’t what you see as ‘representative of modern day America’, it’s a step in the right direction of educating people about the injustices people of colour face every day and removing that prejudice.
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if they do 50% white 50% black and it turns into a race war this will be embarrassing.

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Is BBUS a bit like BBUK in the sense that PoC very rarely win but quite often come 2nd or 3rd. Is that a similar thing in America?
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Nope, it’s rare that a person of colour makes it past the second juror spot. 8th was the highest this year which is I think the highest in a long time (excluding CBB)
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PoC do well usually in my country's Survivor (Expeditie Robinson)

one had won in 2015, one of our weather presenters Amara Onwuka

and recent years

2018 we had athlete Gregory Sedoc as runner up

2019 even two PoC as runners up, radio dj Eva Cleven, the voice season 1 finalist Shary-An


as for Big Brother here idk, back when we last had it, not many PoC took part in reality shows, so i will be curious if this is different next year when BB makes it comeback
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This is great news, about time
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