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This thread wouldn’t exist if someone was reciting the rosary, if your first thought when you see a Muslim praying is about your safety, then it’s racism
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This thread wouldn’t exist if someone was reciting the rosary, if your first thought when you see a Muslim praying is about your safety, then it’s racism
Can you tell me when you have seen someone reciting the rosary in public anywhere...because I have never seen this ever and if I did I would probably think they were a nut job....does that make me racist
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Can you tell me when you have seen someone reciting the rosary in public anywhere...because I have never seen this ever and if I did I would probably think they were a nut job....does that make me racist
Its not uncommon at all to see people praying before a plane takes off - a lot of people are very, very scared of flying. So to name one of the ONLY places I've seen people openly praying I public... .... ... On planes. Before take off, before landing, during heavy turbulence. Not uncommon at all.

And we'd think nothing of it if it was a priest in full dog collar get up.

But we get a bit antsy if it's a Muslim.

I didn't even say I wouldn't - like I said, given the association with plane hijacking, it's a normal enough reaction. However, it is racial profiling by definition, and thus racist.
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Its not uncommon at all to see people praying before a plane takes off - a lot of people are very, very scared of flying. So to name one of the ONLY places I've seen people openly praying I public... .... ... On planes. Before take off, before landing, during heavy turbulence. Not uncommon at all.

And we'd think nothing of it if it was a priest in full dog collar get up.

But we get a bit antsy if it's a Muslim.

I didn't even say I wouldn't - like I said, given the association with plane hijacking, it's a normal enough reaction. However, it is racial profiling by definition, and thus racist.

Literally fly 12 or more times a year and never witnessed anyone praying…..holding hands on takeoff and landing but never praying …might be a Scottish thing what kind of praying are you talking about full on decades of the rosary ….most people who are nervous fliers have a few bevvies that’s why the airport pubs are generally packed …doubt the prayer rooms are
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I’m at the airport as I type not a person praying in sight …just relaxed people having brekkie
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This thread wouldn’t exist if someone was reciting the rosary, if your first thought when you see a Muslim praying is about your safety, then it’s racism

Why don't you grow up.....
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This thread wouldn’t exist if someone was reciting the rosary, if your first thought when you see a Muslim praying is about your safety, then it’s racism
Well it's a Religion so it would be Islamophobia.

I know that I'm nitpicking.
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Well it's a Religion so it would be Islamophobia.

I know that I'm nitpicking.
No, it’s good you’re acknowledging the difference. Islam is ultimately not a race.
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I’m not the one having a strop because people pray in public and I’m the atheist!
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Spose it would give you something to gawp at during the delay.
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if anyone of any religion, knelt down in the aisle of a plane and started praying, i would like to know who wouldn't be unsettled. Do they know something that I don't would be the first thought in my head
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if anyone of any religion, knelt down in the aisle of a plane and started praying, i would like to know who wouldn't be unsettled. Do they know something that I don't would be the first thought in my head
He took his pray Matt to the back of the plane and was praying out of sight, he is not in the middle of the isle at all

A nervous flyer having a panic attack is more likely to cause harm and distress

Also it’s narrow minded thinking if he is Muslim he might be a bomber
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He took his pray Matt to the back of the plane and was praying out of sight, he is not in the middle of the isle at all

A nervous flyer having a panic attack is more likely to cause harm and distress

Also it’s narrow minded thinking if he is Muslim he might be a bomber
it's not really narrow minded given historical hijacks
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it's not really narrow minded given historical hijacks
Of course it is considering how millions of Muslim’s travel by plane each year without any problem

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Why do you need to pray in the middle of short haul flight though?
I get they need to pray 5 times a day but can it not be scheduled so you don’t have to pray in public?
I can’t say the guy made a huge scene because he didn’t
maybe I was only 1 of a hand full of people who actually noticed him praying
But the cabin crew definitely did feel awkward by it
I think only because maybe the emergency exit must be kept clear at all times

For me I think there is a time and place to express your religion and in confined public spaces it really isn’t it.

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Why do you need to pray in the middle of short haul flight though?
I get they need to pray 5 times a day but can it not be scheduled so you don’t have to pray in public?
I can’t say the guy made a huge scene because he didn’t
maybe I was only 1 of a hand full of people who actually noticed him praying
But the cabin crew definitely did feel awkward by it
I think only because maybe the emergency exit must be kept clear at all times

For me I think there is a time and place to express your religion and in public spaces it really isn’t it.
I dont often agree with you but you are right, looks like an Easy Jet flight so not long haul, no need for this at all

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No but if I hear people starting to shout ‘allahu akbar‘ I will pee and poo myself at the same time.
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Murphy says, don’t worry I’ve got another one in me suitcase
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…it feels as though you answered your own questions, User…the prayer was taking place at the back of the aircraft, which apparently is the most likely place that would be allocated….as there is more room so can be done without any disruption to any staffing routines….I was reading on one site that some passengers have been allowed to do small yoga routines and other non prayer related things also in this more quiet area…passengers have their back to that area so as you say, barely anyone would notice as you felt they probably didn’t…the prayers only last a few moments and the staff would ensure that it all adhered to passenger safety at all times etc…so it doesn’t feel as though there would be any reason to object to it, when it was all done with consideration and discretion etc…’is it ever inappropriate’…?…hmmm, maybe …but in the situation and circumstances that you’ve said, it doesn’t feel inappropriate and I would think, most airlines and situations would be similarly allowed for unless there were specific reasons why that couldn’t happen…

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Not at all surprised you haven’t been pulled by Liam or SB on this ‘joke’ try inserting Muslim for Murphy and count down to the outrage lol
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Not at all surprised you haven’t been pulled by Liam or SB on this ‘joke’ try inserting Muslim for Murphy and count down to the outrage lol
Not be pulled because it’s an old joke that’s been around for years
And I’m clearly joking

Adding Muslim wouldn’t make it funny

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And I’m clearly joking

Adding Muslim wouldn’t make it funny

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and that is my point, no one can make a joke about muslim bombers without being called an Islamaphobe? but you are free to say Irish people are thick as a joke and not a word is said ? I dont care you can make jokes about who you like its the hypocrisy that gets me tbh
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and that is my point, no one can make a joke about muslim bombers without being called an Islamaphobe? but you are free to say Irish people are thick as a joke and not a word is said ? I dont care you can make jokes about who you like its the hypocrisy that gets me tbh
Who made a joke about Muslim bombers? Who was called an Islamaphobe for making a joke? Is the hypocrisy in the room with us right now Cherie?

I don't think you're thick but you don't half just... make stuff up to support your argument... imaginary stuff that hasn't actually been said by anyone. Maybe a bit less day drinking would help .
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