[user104658]

Interesting to see people getting so excited about a resurgence of far-right politics in Germany. "Interesting". We mustn't speculate about the motives of other members though .

Getting utterly ludicrous at this point, are you still firmly on the single-track train to denial town @James ?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Google AfD

First 9 results on page one

All far left MSM fake news sites
BBC
Independent
Guardian
Reuters
Al-Jazeera

Sickening

[arista]

[arista]

[Glenn.]

We have a German friend here in Australia and she was telling us the AFD are atrocious. And judging by LTs weird support for them on here I’d say I’m happy they haven’t won.

[user104658]

Germany’s Merz vows ‘independence’ from Trump’s America, warning NATO may soon be dead


Election winner likens the Trump administration to Putin’s Russia as he bids to take Europe in a new direction

[user104658]

He also talks about Musk and election interference.

Sorry Trump chumps.

[Crimson Dynamo]

As the mist clears from last nights German election results we can now see the following:

1. The CDU/CSU can form a coalition with the SPD to produce a government with a small working majority: 329 seats in a Bundestag in which you need 316 for a majority.

2. The Greens therefore not likely to be needed and go into opposition.

3. But the ‘official’ opposition will be the AfD with 151 seats.

4. If it’s to be a CDU/CSU- SPD coalition then perhaps it can be formed relatively quickly. Even then not before Easter. And given the policy differences it could take longer, leaving Germany rudderless at a time of geopolitical crisis and economic decline.

5. It is ironic that the biggest loser of the night — SPD — gets to stay in government. A quirk of PR voting system much loved by UK chattering classes. It will inhibit the new government from introducing the radical reforms Germany needs.

6. Meanwhile the AfD sits in opposition ready to capitalise should it all go wrong.

https://x.com/afneil/status/1893910035727618539

[Nicky91]

thankfully CDU won, and not AFD


the ball is now with them, as the most popular party, i think CDU-SPD coalition is more likely than a CDU-AFD coalition




great words from Merz regarding the current state of what the USA is like at this moment



also CDU are still a right wing party, so yes immigration policies will undergo certain changes for the better, illegal migrants who now arrive will be immediately sent back




but we don't need nazi's like AFD in any form of power in the country, AFD are almost similar to Golden Dawn in Greece, only difference is that the AFD haven't murdered journalists of the opposition (not yet anyway)



i think Merz is a stronger leader than Merkel, Scholz

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

As the mist clears from last nights German election results we can now see the following:

1. The CDU/CSU can form a coalition with the SPD to produce a government with a small working majority: 329 seats in a Bundestag in which you need 316 for a majority.

2. The Greens therefore not likely to be needed and go into opposition.

3. But the ‘official’ opposition will be the AfD with 151 seats.

4. If it’s to be a CDU/CSU- SPD coalition then perhaps it can be formed relatively quickly. Even then not before Easter. And given the policy differences it could take longer, leaving Germany rudderless at a time of geopolitical crisis and economic decline.

5. It is ironic that the biggest loser of the night — SPD — gets to stay in government. A quirk of PR voting system much loved by UK chattering classes. It will inhibit the new government from introducing the radical reforms Germany needs.

6. Meanwhile the AfD sits in opposition ready to capitalise should it all go wrong.

https://x.com/afneil/status/1893910035727618539

the SPD are still the third most popular party


so a CDU-SPD coalition would also not look bad at all, 1st and 3rd most popular parties from the general public in the nation


and this is very much possible now since certain smaller parties failed to win enough votes to get into the Bundestag



as if the CDU don't know that regarding the AFD, that is why negotiations with the SPD need to go smoothly, carefully listening to their own terms for this coalition, etc since both don't want fascist AFD to get into power obviously

[user104658]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=htt...825e&rdt=58589

[arista]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=htt...825e&rdt=58589

Yes shows the Power reach of the AfD


Last night on Ch4HDnews
Matt Frie in Berlin
is ideal as he speaks German.

https://www.channel4.com/news/german...-second-dubbed



He spoke to young AfD voters
who says the Terrorists
in Germany are not welcome.

[James]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

Interesting to see people getting so excited about a resurgence of far-right politics in Germany. "Interesting". We mustn't speculate about the motives of other members though .

Getting utterly ludicrous at this point, are you still firmly on the single-track train to denial town @James ?

For most people European politics (including German) are a curiosity. We don't really know what is going on, what the parties are, who the main players are etc.

I mean I don't know anything about the AFD apart from they are - I'm assuming - anti-immigration.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by James

For most people European politics (including German) are a curiosity. We don't really know what is going on, what the parties are, who the main players are etc.

I mean I don't know anything about the AFD apart from they are - I'm assuming - anti-immigration.

From their manifesto

CHAPTER 9
9 | Immigration, Integration and Asylum 57
9.1 No Irregular Immigration via Asylum Laws 58
9.1.1 In Need of a Paradigm Shift in Asylum Immigration 58
9.1.2 Repatriation - End Misguided Incentives and False Tolerance 59
9.2 Immigration from Other EU Countries 60
9.3 Control Immigration from Non-EU Countries 61
9.4 Integration is more than just Learning the German Language 62
9.5 Create Transparency in the Costs of Immigration 62
9.6 No Disguising and Hiding of Immigrant Crime 63
9.7 Naturalisation – The Final Act in the Process of Integration 64

https://www.afd.de/wp-content/upload...glisch_web.pdf

[bots]

with these coalition governments, it really doesn't much matter what the winning party's policies are as they have to negotiate policy away in order to form a government. None of the parties have any form of mandate

[user104658]

Originally Posted by James

For most people European politics (including German) are a curiosity. We don't really know what is going on, what the parties are, who the main players are etc.

I mean I don't know anything about the AFD apart from they are - I'm assuming - anti-immigration.

The party that won are the right-leaning party, the AFD are a far-right party that every other party in Germany has collectively agreed they won't work with, and who have been classified by the German Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution as a suspected extremist organisation. They're white supremacists.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

They're white supremacists.

Are they actually? The leader is married to a non-white woman - which doesn't mean they can't otherwise be far right, of course.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Are they actually? The leader is married to a non-white woman - which doesn't mean they can't otherwise be far right, of course.

id ignore, its nonsense patter

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Are they actually? The leader is married to a non-white woman - which doesn't mean they can't otherwise be far right, of course.

Over-simplified; how many misogynists are married to women, how many misogynists ARE women, Maggie Thatcher is at the forefront of modern neoliberal patriarchal capitalism.

"White supremacy" doesn't just mean Aryan Nation eugenicism.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

Over-simplified; how many misogynists are married to women, how many misogynists ARE women, Maggie Thatcher is at the forefront of modern neoliberal patriarchal capitalism.

"White supremacy" doesn't just mean Aryan Nation eugenicism.

Hm, point taken then there's "you're one of the good ones"-ism.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Elon Musk has continued his public association with Germany’s popular
Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) party, sending a congratulatory post on X to
the party’s co-chair Alice Weidel following the election results last night in
Germany.

In the post, Musk quoted Hungarian president Viktor Orbán who sent his own
message of support to the AfD.

“The people of Germany voted for change in immense numbers. I want to
congratulate @Alice_Weidel on doubling @AfD ’s share of the votes. Good luck
and God bless Germany!” Orbán wrote.

In response, Musk said: “Indeed, congratulations @Alice_Weidel! At this rate of growth, @AfD will be the majority party by the next election.”




https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1893975895473348624

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

id ignore, its nonsense patter

It’s not nonsense. My friend who lives in Germany, said exactly the same thing.