[Beso]

Originally Posted by Kate!

I'm on about migrants being interviewed you daft pair, not concerned citizens.

It's what they do Kate...They use 2 examples to tar everyone with the same brush.....Then in the next sentence they tell people you can't judge all immigrants on the actions of some.

[Cherie]

Britain's migrant welcome schemes costing an estimated whopping £38 billion over the past decade are failing in one key aspect, a damning new report has found. It warned that the significant spending has "relatively little to show" in regards to long-term social infrastructure.

The Government has been told its welcome schemes need to move from a "crisis-led, reactive provision to a proactive one", with greater focus on the longer term required. The report by Oxford University's Global Exchange on Migration and Diversity, titled The Future of Welcoming in the UK, said schemes in the 10 years up to 2014 have been "without an overall strategy" and "limited evaluation and assessment of value for money". It says roughly £20billion, rising to more than £38billion when adjusted for inflation, have been spent on 26 different streams during the period.

The study, published by The National, said this is likely an "underestimate" with the actual figure expected to be even higher.

It said more than half of the amount spent was on asylum accommodation, including migrant hotels, with spending "increasing rapidly" in recent years - from around £200million in 2016 to more than £5billion in 2024.

The spending on migrant hotels during the period was described as an "overspend" and comes amid a series of protests across the country outside hotels being used to accommodate asylum seekers.

Author of the report Jacqueline Broadhead, director of the Global Exchange on Migration and Diversity, said spending on the hotels over the past decade are "unnecessarily high".

"Better planning and organisation could have reduced this sum substantially ... and helped the country to invest in a longer-term and more acceptable model," she said.

Channel small boat crossings have reached 25,000 so far in 2025 - a record for this point in the year.

The report criticised Britain's focus on the "front-end" welcoming of migrants, with less emphasis placed on "longer term integration outcomes and community cohesion".

It detailed how there is no UK-wide strategy for welcoming, integration and inclusion of migrants with no Government taking total ownership, with responsibility mainly split between the Home Office and Ministry of Housing, Communities & Local Government.

The report detailed a plan to reform the system, including the establishment of a joint integration planning group at central Whitehall level.

The authors added Labour has "taken several steps which address some of the issues highlighted in the report".

Just highlighting a few words in the report for the ill informed who believe the migrants are all missing in action :




Thought the migrants got no help

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Britain's migrant welcome schemes costing an estimated whopping £38 billion over the past decade are failing in one key aspect, a damning new report has found. It warned that the significant spending has "relatively little to show" in regards to long-term social infrastructure.

The Government has been told its welcome schemes need to move from a "crisis-led, reactive provision to a proactive one", with greater focus on the longer term required. The report by Oxford University's Global Exchange on Migration and Diversity, titled The Future of Welcoming in the UK, said schemes in the 10 years up to 2014 have been "without an overall strategy" and "limited evaluation and assessment of value for money". It says roughly £20billion, rising to more than £38billion when adjusted for inflation, have been spent on 26 different streams during the period.

The study, published by The National, said this is likely an "underestimate" with the actual figure expected to be even higher.

It said more than half of the amount spent was on asylum accommodation, including migrant hotels, with spending "increasing rapidly" in recent years - from around £200million in 2016 to more than £5billion in 2024.

The spending on migrant hotels during the period was described as an "overspend" and comes amid a series of protests across the country outside hotels being used to accommodate asylum seekers.

Author of the report Jacqueline Broadhead, director of the Global Exchange on Migration and Diversity, said spending on the hotels over the past decade are "unnecessarily high".

"Better planning and organisation could have reduced this sum substantially ... and helped the country to invest in a longer-term and more acceptable model," she said.

Channel small boat crossings have reached 25,000 so far in 2025 - a record for this point in the year.

The report criticised Britain's focus on the "front-end" welcoming of migrants, with less emphasis placed on "longer term integration outcomes and community cohesion".

It detailed how there is no UK-wide strategy for welcoming, integration and inclusion of migrants with no Government taking total ownership, with responsibility mainly split between the Home Office and Ministry of Housing, Communities & Local Government.

The report detailed a plan to reform the system, including the establishment of a joint integration planning group at central Whitehall level.

The authors added Labour has "taken several steps which address some of the issues highlighted in the report".

Just highlighting a few words in the report for the ill informed who believe the migrants are all missing in action :




Thought the migrants got no help

I can’t see the word illegal in that report

Key difference

“Migrant” is a broad, neutral term.
“Illegal migrant” means someone is in the country unlawfully.

Be cautious. Some people misuse the word “migrant” when they mean “illegal” to stir up fear or confusion

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I can’t see the word illegal in that report

Key difference

“Migrant” is a broad, neutral term.
“Illegal migrant” means someone is in the country unlawfully.

Be cautious. Some people misuse the word “migrant” when they mean “illegal” to stir up fear or confusion

Legal migrants are not put up in hotels, they get a visa because they have a job to come to and rent or buy if they can, my sons lodger is an Indian national, visa, job, address, it as a condition of his visa that he had an address to go to, and when I worked in Postgraduate Education, students had to find and pay for their own accommodation in fact again it was a condition of their visa that they had the funds to rent and had to provide either a guarantor or bank statements to prove it, you literally have no idea what is going on

[Glenn.]

Migrant

A migrant is anyone who moves from one country to another. This includes:
•Legal migrants: people who come with a visa, for work, study, or family reasons.
•Asylum seekers: people fleeing danger who apply for protection.
•Refugees: asylum seekers who’ve been granted protection.



I know you’re trying really hard to make this work for you but it’s just not.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Migrant

A migrant is anyone who moves from one country to another. This includes:
•Legal migrants: people who come with a visa, for work, study, or family reasons.
•Asylum seekers: people fleeing danger who apply for protection.
•Refugees: asylum seekers who’ve been granted protection.



I know you’re trying really hard to make this work for you but it’s just not.

All that says is they don't have an illegal migrant section, simply because an illegal migrant isn't in fact a migrant purely down to the fact they didnt follow the rules of being a migrant..so they can't be called migrants. The government is to **** scared to call the boat arrivals what they are...which is illegal migrants/immigrants. They are the ones that take up the majority of spaces in the hotels, anyone denying that is sticking their head in the sand cause the are to **** scared like the government.


These illegals are greedy selfish bastard taking up space for proper migrants who have had to seek asylum elsewhere because of conflict, the mothers, the children the elderly and infirm. Those poor souls places taken up by some entitled fool chasing a new pot if gold like the one he was lucky enough to have at home. They have to enter illegally because they wouldn't be accepted otherwise due to which faction they belonged to in past wars in the middle East.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Beso

All that says is they don't have an illegal migrant section, simply because an illegal migrant isn't in fact a migrant purely down to the fact they didnt follow the rules of being a migrant..so they can't be called migrants. The government is to **** scared to call the boat arrivals what they are...which is illegal migrants/immigrants. They are the ones that take up the majority of spaces in the hotels, anyone denying that is sticking their head in the sand cause the are to **** scared like the government.


These illegals are greedy selfish bastard taking up space for proper migrants who have had to seek asylum elsewhere because of conflict, the mothers, the children the elderly and infirm. Those poor souls places taken up by some entitled fool chasing a new pot if gold like the one he was lucky enough to have at home. They have to enter illegally because they wouldn't be accepted otherwise due to which faction they belonged to in past wars in the middle East.

No it clearly states what a migrant is. And look guys… it says asylum seeker. And they have every right to seek asylum in the uk.
I’m not even gonna bother acknowledging the mess that was the rest of this post coz we both know it doesn’t matter who is coming over boats, the reaction would still be the same.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

No it clearly states what a migrant is. And look guys… it says asylum seeker. And they have every right to seek asylum in the uk.
I’m not even gonna bother acknowledging the mess that was the rest of this post coz we both know it doesn’t matter who is coming over boats, the reaction would still be the same.

But it doesn't classify illegal immigration. Which is what our hotels are full with. It's really simple, do it the proper way and you are welcome. Enter undocumented and in an illegal manner, then no. Sorry but only mugs would accept that.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Kate!

In Your opinion. Which I don't give two hoots about. Bye.

Originally Posted by Kate!

I understood the difference perfectly. I was clarifying it for you. Don't be facetious. If I didn't know, I'd have asked it as a question. Doh.

Make it make sense

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Beso

But it doesn't classify illegal immigration. Which is what our hotels are full with. It's really simple, do it the proper way and you are welcome. Enter undocumented and in an illegal manner, then no. Sorry but only mugs would accept that.

But that’s where you’re wrong. They’re not full of illegals. They are people seeking asylum. Which they have every right to do. You know I can keep saying it over and over. Because it’s true.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

But that’s where you’re wrong. They’re not full of illegals. They are people seeking asylum. Which they have every right to do. You know I can keep saying it over and over. Because it’s true.

Whatever floats your boat.


I can guarantee 94 percent of them had to run up a beech to get to that hotel though. Which is illegal, right!


Came from the safe haven of France, right? What asylum are they seeking? You can't just get to a safe haven, then jump on a boat to enter another country illegally and then..only then, call yourself an asylum seeker.

It's almost as daft as a man with a penis claiming to be a woman.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by glenn.

migrant

a migrant is anyone who moves from one country to another. This includes:
•legal migrants: People who come with a visa, for work, study, or family reasons.
•asylum seekers: People fleeing danger who apply for protection.
•refugees: Asylum seekers who’ve been granted protection.



I know you’re trying really hard to make this work for you but it’s just not.

yes legal migrants who come with a visa....

They are not put up in hotels, not sure how much clearer it needs to be for you to understand...... Legal migrants need an address or a family member to guarantee their rent as a condition of their visa, they will not be hosted at the expense of the country, any further questions?

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

yes legal migrants who come with a visa....

They are not put up in hotels, not sure how much clearer it needs to be for you to understand...... Legal migrants need an address or a family member to guarantee their rent as a condition of their visa, they will not be hosted at the expense of the country, any further questions?

Maybe you’re deliberately ignoring the rest of the migrants listed in my post.
Asylum seekers are classed as migrants too

[Beso]

I like the refugees.

I did a charity swim for the charity "refuweegie" a 31 day swim challenge with guest. I was honoured to be the guest on day 12.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Maybe you’re deliberately ignoring the rest of the migrants listed in my post.
Asylum seekers are classed as migrants too :thumbs:

wtaf, you have just spent a day practically telling us that the people in hotels were not illegal migrants....like what the hell

[Nicky91]

luckily you guys don't live in my nation then


thanks to the idiot woman Dilan Yesilgoz in our parliament, we won't do anything about this asylum seeker/migrant crisis


she even made Geert Wilders and his PVV quit which meant the collapse of our current government


i really don't know why it is so difficult to say no to more asylum seekers/migrants, to be honest

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

wtaf, you have just spent a day practically telling us that the people in hotels were not illegal migrants....like what the hell

They’re not illegal migrants. They’re asylum seekers.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

They’re not illegal migrants. They’re asylum seekers.

There are many illegal migrants who are claiming to be asylum seekers but they are not fleeing conflict or persecution
You have a lot of Albanians and other nationals claiming to be from war torn countries you also have straight men claiming to be gay and that the reason they have fled a country but they are not gay or even from the country they claim to have fled from it’s why they throw their passports away so they can’t be quickly identified and sent back

It’s been asked many times if you are a genuine asylum seeker you don’t need to get in a boat you can fly here for 25 pounds and claim asylum

I’m not going to go back and forth with this I have no problem with genuine asylum seekers and to me asylum seekers are a mum dad and children because why would you leave your loved ones behind if they are in danger

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

They’re not illegal migrants. They’re asylum seekers.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The PM calling illegals illegal now

Keir Starmer
@Keir_Starmer
·
49m
We have detained the first illegal migrants under our new deal before returning them to France.

No gimmicks, just results. If you break the law to enter this country, you will face being sent back.

When I say I will stop at nothing to secure our borders, I mean it.

https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/1953365337514148241

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

The PM calling illegals illegal now

Keir Starmer
@Keir_Starmer
·
49m
We have detained the first illegal migrants under our new deal before returning them to France.

No gimmicks, just results. If you break the law to enter this country, you will face being sent back.

When I say I will stop at nothing to secure our borders, I mean it.

https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/1953365337514148241

thought all the illegals were MIA