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Old 12-09-2007, 09:32 AM #1
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I don't think war is right but sometimes, like the 1st etc. we had to go to war.. to save lives.. Nowadays, in my eyes, all people fight over is religion and what others should believe in.
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Religion came from mans mind...
And mans mind devised several completely different religions.
And the best case scenario is that one of them is true, if any. Which makes all the other religions false.
Which is part of why im not religious.

And also why I think fighting over religion is silly.
Not to mention, people should accept that everyone has different beliefs.
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Religion came from mans mind...
And mans mind devised several completely different religions.
And the best case scenario is that one of them is true, if any. Which makes all the other religions false.
Which is part of why Im not religious.

And also why I think fighting over religion is silly.
Not to mention, people should accept that everyone has different beliefs.
Indeed.

But all the religions aren't COMPLETELY different (as you put it). Judaism, Christianity and Islam all worship the same good and believe in the same original book, they just disagree on what came after. And as for Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, they're all similar, and could be described as pagan religions, just as the rest of the hundreds of religions in the world.

So I get what you mean about it being silly to fight over religion. But the main cause of the problems that have risen in Israel are to do with Judaism, Christianity and Islam disagreeing over who's holy land is it, believing that they're religion is the correct interpretation of the word.

So it's not the fact that they're fighting over who's belief is right it's just over who's land it is, believing themselves to be right, which in a way is justified. I say give it to the Jews since they were there first.
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Indeed.

But all the religions aren't COMPLETELY different (as you put it). Judaism, Christianity and Islam all worship the same good and believe in the same original book, they just disagree on what came after. And as for Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, they're all similar, and could be described as pagan religions, just as the rest of the hundreds of religions in the world.

So I get what you mean about it being silly to fight over religion. But the main cause of the problems that have risen in Israel are to do with Judaism, Christianity and Islam disagreeing over who's holy land is it, believing that they're religion is the correct interpretation of the word.

So it's not the fact that they're fighting over who's belief is right it's just over who's land it is, believing themselves to be right, which in a way is justified. I say give it to the Jews since they were there first.
Well ok, I admit there is the common ground that religions usually tend to worship some form of god.
But the religions themselves are usually very different. From the way Christians go to church, pray, are anti-gay [not all christians are, but their god tells them they should be apparently.] and orientate around forgiveness and the Ten Commandments etc. Whereas you might find other people worshipping multiple gods such as Shiva and Vishnu, through offerings of food to an idol in their living room, which they will eat for the god in question because he/she can't eat it themselves etc. And will pray on prayer mats facing in a certain direction and so on.

They usually tend to have different rules/regulations/teachings/methods. And some of their books such as the Bible/Quran have some very different approaches/stories/explanations/values etc.

I suppose im saying their foundations/histories are different. Though their overall belief will be similar.

And I understand completely what you're saying about them fighting for land etc and not over religion...
But I never did claim anyone was fighting over religion to be fair. I think that was the user above my post who said that. I was just talking in regards to "if" people were fighting over religion.

I tend to wonder what would happen if a "superpower" was set up. A country and ruler, or large piece of land at least..that has so many troops/resources/weaponary/technology that they have the ability to wipe out any and all people trying to cause war around the world.

Kind of like a "if you step out of line, we WILL stop you" approach.

Im not saying it's right, but it'd be interesting to see what affect it'd have on the world in regards to war.

Two countries killing eachother over some form of argument/difference of opinion...they'd soon think twice if their was some greater force with the capability to destroy them.

And I don't mean destroy as in completely blow up their country and kill innocent people. I just mean they'd have the ability to target all of the people involved, the area's and buildings they operate within etc and erase them.
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Is war right? No.

Is it sometimes necessary? Yes.

Is the war in Iraq right? Well that is subjective. I personally feel that it is not.

What are we doing there? As an American...I do support our American troops but I do not support the leadership that sent our troops there. Daily innocent people are dying; soldiers, Iraqians, Other foreign soldiers, etc.

They did not attack on September 11th...they do not have weapons of mass destruction...they will continue to have conflict and war in their country long after we leave. So why are we there?

It is a shame really...the lost of lives...the innocence...
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no! killing innocent lives for something like oil???

also killing the even more innocent people like the babies and people who aren't soldiers

the whole thing makes me feel sick
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It's not preferable, but sometimes it's necessary.

And sorry to disappoint the pacifists in here - but Utopia (or world peace) will never happen, and never can. Religions, political ideologies, relationships and diplomacy are all far too complex to allow for it to ever happen.
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America world police.........f##k yeah!
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America world police.........f##k yeah!
OMGLOLOLOL. No.
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