[Wildcat!]

You guys thinking that the lack of LF isnt gonna make a difference, are kidding yourselves. Its not about sitting there watching 2/7, its the fact that someone is watching at one point or another. And the buzz on forums come from that. Wait until the show starts and you will see how little its talked about compared to other years. For CBB this year, Ive never seen so little interest in the show, and its mainly because of the lack of LF.
Me personally, I dont like being manipulated by the highlights, so I know I am not gonna care as much. There is no way Im gonna vote for one, because thats just pointless, and I will watch it probably like a soap opera rather than BB!

As for doing something about it, there is nothing to do! Theyve made their decision, and I think they are willing to live with it. I dont think Ch4 cares how the show does frankly. I think they just want to finish off the contract, and dump the show. Which is fair enough if thats their long term plan.

[President]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
You guys thinking that the lack of LF isnt going to make a difference, are kidding yourselves. Its not about sitting there watching 2/7, its the fact that someone is watching at one point or another. And the buzz on forums come from that. Wait until the show starts and you will see how little its talked about compared to other years. For CBB this year, Ive never seen so little interest in the show, and its mainly because of the lack of LF.
Me personally, I dont like being manipulated by the highlights, so I know I am not going to care as much. There is no way Im going to vote for one, because thats just pointless, and I will watch it probably like a soap opera rather than BB!

As for doing something about it, there is nothing to do! Theyve made their decision, and I think they are willing to live with it. I dont think Ch4 cares how the show does frankly. I think they just want to finish off the contract, and dump the show. Which is fair enough if thats their long term plan.

You don't seem to understand.

Fair enough, a buzz is formed on forums.

HOWEVER, the forums are only used by a minority of the Big Brother audience.

I accept that the forum experience will not be as good as previous years. But it doesn't mean the main show will be crapper.

For most people who do not watch the live feed or use forums (more than 90% of the BB audience), there won't be any difference at all.

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by President

The forums are used by a vast minority of the total Big Brother audience.

Even if a buzz is created on the forums, it is so little in the grand scheme of things.

I think people like you are deluded. The live feed has not sparked much buzz in the last few years, so it's only right that it should be axed because only a few people used the red button service.

You seem to think that as a viewer you have the right to watch live feed, but you don't. Channel 4 have the right to do what is best for their company, and in this economic situation that answer is to get rid of the live feed which is costly and has a low demand.

Accept the decision, and move on.

Otherwise, you are just ruining the experience for other people with your constant moaning. You've posted recently under your other Blondedumbition alias that you think BB10 will be a total flop - well don't watch it then, and don't discuss it.

Oh dear oh dear - people like you really need to grow up and get some perspective .

OK, wait and see how dead this place and all the other forums are during BB10.

The success of the first BB was driven by the live feed (which launched online before the first h/l show) and message boards. It was the show that bridged the gap between TV and the web. I would say something like 25% of BB viewers at least read forums or sites like Heatworld, even if they don't actively take part. That's a minority of the total audience, but not a tiny one.

How do you think the Nasty Nick incident became such a massive phenomenon? If it wasn't for the live feed, and frenetic discussion of Nick's plotting as it began to emerge, there would never have been all those tabloid headlines and growing fascination that attracted new viewers to the show as it progressed. Most h/l shows were 22 minutes long in 2000 - only a very small amount of Nick's nefarious behaviour was aired on TV. The live feed was (and remains) absolutely essential. The ability to watch the housemates at any time of the day or night is the whole point of the show's existence, and explains why every other BB in the world still has 24/7 LF.

The live feed will still be there. Nothing is being saved at all. But C4 just won't be broadcasting it. How much do you really think it costs to have someone hit the tweety bird button occasionally? The live feed was still attracting around a million viewers over the course of every 24 hours during BB9 (although only maybe 150-200,000 might have been watching at any one time). Even that isn't bad when you look at the tiny viewing figures Richard & Judy cable show got, for example.

I don't think BB10 will be a flop - I know it will. It already is. It cannot possibly be anything else. But I promise not to gloat when it inevitably bombs

[Tom]

Originally posted bAy Aint_mad_atcha
You guys thinking that the lack of LF isnt going to make a difference, are kidding yourselves. Its not about sitting there watching 2/7, its the fact that someone is watching at one point or another. And the buzz on forums come from that. Wait until the show starts and you will see how little its talked about compared to other years. For CBB this year, Ive never seen so little interest in the show, and its mainly because of the lack of LF.
Me personally, I dont like being manipulated by the highlights, so I know I am not going to care as much. There is no way Im going to vote for one, because thats just pointless, and I will watch it probably like a soap opera rather than BB!

As for doing something about it, there is nothing to do! Theyve made their decision, and I think they are willing to live with it. I dont think Ch4 cares how the show does frankly. I think they just want to finish off the contract, and dump the show. Which is fair enough if thats their long term plan.

BB dosen't even get talked about anymore anyway (well once the day after launch night has passed) so thats where that theory fails.

For CBB6, little interest was due to an absolutely awful and boring series, not the live feed. I watch E4 streaming at night and highlights so I wasn't affected during CBB6. How do you explain that I lost interest?

The live feed is also quite manipulated and if you think otherwise then you're deluded and you need to get down off your high horse. The live feed was not the Bible equivalent of BB.

I'd rather be manipulated and entertained rather than not manipulated and bored stiff.

At the end of the day, its an entertainment show and I don't get why some people take BB so seriously.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Stentionhouse

OK, wait and see how dead this place and all the other forums are during BB10.

This place wasn't that dead during what imo is the worst series ever, CBB6.

The success of the first BB was driven by the live feed (which launched online before the first h/l show) and message boards. It was the show that bridged the gap between TV and the web. I would say something like 25% of BB viewers at least read forums or sites like Heatworld, even if they don't actively take part. That's a minority of the total audience, but not a tiny one.

Go and ask a regular BB fan have they ever heard of "Digital Spy" or "This is Big Brother". I bet you'll get laughed at. Most fans just visit the website.

How do you think the Nasty Nick incident became such a massive phenomenon? If it wasn't for the live feed, and frenetic discussion of Nick's plotting as it began to emerge, there would never have been all those tabloid headlines and growing fascination that attracted new viewers to the show as it progressed. Most h/l shows were 22 minutes long in 2000 - only a very small amount of Nick's nefarious behaviour was aired on TV. The live feed was (and remains) absolutely essential. The ability to watch the housemates at any time of the day or night is the whole point of the show's existence, and explains why every other BB in the world still has 24/7 LF.

But the difference is that was in 2000 when the live feed was still relevant because BB was new and there was a novelty about watching people when you wanted to. Only 2 other events have caused some kind of buzz- fight night 1 and 2. And they occured at night and on E4, so if it happens again the chances are it will be on E4 anyway. Nothing happens during the day plus people have better things to do such as have lives and go to work.

The live feed will still be there. Nothing is being saved at all. But C4 just won't be broadcasting it. How much do you really think it costs to have someone hit the tweety bird button occasionally? The live feed was still attracting around a million viewers over the course of every 24 hours during BB9 (although only maybe 150-200,000 might have been watching at any one time). Even that isn't bad when you look at the tiny viewing figures Richard & Judy cable show got, for example.

Those figures are for E4 streaming, and they don't say 1m watched at all. E4 streaming will be significantly higher than the red button- not even all forum members new there was a red button service so what hope do the general public have?

I don't think BB10 will be a flop - I know it will. It already is. It cannot possibly be anything else. But I promise not to gloat when it inevitably bombs

And I won't gloat when it doesn't fall as far as you expect

Its inevitable viewing figures will be at an all time low but I doubt they'll be as low as you think. Interest is waining in Big Brother. Its that simple.

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by Tom

Only for online fans it creates enjoyment. 99% of the viewing public DO NOT VISIT FORUMS so it will not have an effect on them. yes you can bring up the forum buzz means tabloid interest argument, but in all honesty the tabloids don't even care about BB anymore and there were just as many stories printed during CBB6 as BB9.

The sad reality is, and the thing you don't seem to be grasping, is the 3-4m who watch the highlights show just watch it. They don't care if its biased, whether theres no buzz, if noone else is watching etc just as long as it entertains them. People don't talk about Big Brother anymore, its just a TV show.

Can I ask you something. The feeling I get from you is you aren't looking forward to BB10 and all you do is moan, so what are you doing on a Big Brother forum complaining about it? Surely you have better things to do?

And if you think not watching will affect Channel 4, well it won't, unless you have a BARB box.

You think only 1% of BB viewers (around 98% of which have an internet connection) read forums? I think it's a bit more than that

There has only been one series with no 24/7 live feed - CBB6. It was an abysmal failure. A 13 week series - and no celebs - will see the majority of viewers bored to the point of switching off. It'll happen, simple as that.

I'm still a fan of Big Brother in principle, which is why I continue to post and hope that it'll end up away from C4 and on a channel that'll make it a watchable show again. I also enjoy moaning. Far as I know it's not been made illegal yet (although Gordon Brown is probably working on it ).

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Tom

BB dosen't even get talked about anymore anyway (well once the day after launch night has passed) so thats where that theory fails.

For CBB6, little interest was due to an absolutely awful and boring series, not the live feed. I watch E4 streaming at night and highlights so I wasn't affected during CBB6. How do you explain that I lost interest?

The live feed is also quite manipulated and if you think otherwise then you're deluded and you need to get down off your high horse. The live feed was not the Bible equivalent of BB.

I'd rather be manipulated and entertained rather than not manipulated and bored stiff.

At the end of the day, its an entertainment show and I don't get why some people take BB so seriously.

Can you talk normally without being rude to people! I think I gave my opinion as to how this series is gonna go, I dont really see the point of you saying things like I am deluded and get off your high horse. If anything, youre the one who needs to get a grip and stop trying to say the same thing a million times on one thread already. I think your opinion is quite clear from the 20 replies you have already, so, why dont you go argue with someone else, if you cant communicate properly.

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by Tom

This place wasn't that dead during what imo is the worst series ever, CBB6.

Go and ask a regular BB fan have they ever heard of "Digital Spy" or "This is Big Brother". I bet you'll get laughed at. Most fans just visit the website.

But the difference is that was in 2000 when the live feed was still relevant because BB was new and there was a novelty about watching people when you wanted to. Only 2 other events have caused some kind of buzz- fight night 1 and 2. And they occured at night and on E4, so if it happens again the chances are it will be on E4 anyway. Nothing happens during the day plus people have better things to do such as have lives and go to work.

Those figures are for E4 streaming, and they don't say 1m watched at all. E4 streaming will be significantly higher than the red button- not even all forum members new there was a red button service so what hope do the general public have?

And I won't gloat when it doesn't fall as far as you expect

Its inevitable viewing figures will be at an all time low but I doubt they'll be as low as you think. Interest is waining in Big Brother. Its that simple.

Just answer this one question (which C4 have adamantly refused to, no matter how many people ask it): why does every other BB in the world still have round the clock live feed?

[President]

OK, wait and see how dead this place and all the other forums are during BB10.

As I've said in one of my previous posts, I accept that the forum experience will not be as good as preious years.

But the majority of the BB audience do NOT use forums. So it won't make a difference to them.

For 90%+ of viewers, the highlights and eviction shows are the only bits they watch for BB.

Please try and grasp that.

The success of the first BB was driven by the live feed (which launched online before the first h/l show) and message boards. It was the show that bridged the gap between TV and the web. I would say something like 25% of BB viewers at least read forums or sites like Heatworld, even if they don't actively take part. That's a minority of the total audience, but not a tiny one.

Why do you keep going back to BB1?!

Yes, BB1 was hugely affected by the live feed which wasvery popualr, I admit.

But in recent years the live feed service has been very low-key and used by hardly anyone.

You can't compare now to BB1. You simply can't. But for some reason, you are. You perfectly know that the live feed is not as essential now as 10 years ago.

Oh please try and get some perspective son.

How do you think the Nasty Nick incident became such a massive phenomenon? If it wasn't for the live feed, and frenetic discussion of Nick's plotting as it began to emerge, there would never have been all those tabloid headlines and growing fascination that attracted new viewers to the show as it progressed. Most h/l shows were 22 minutes long in 2000 - only a very small amount of Nick's nefarious behaviour was aired on TV. The live feed was (and remains) absolutely essential. The ability to watch the housemates at any time of the day or night is the whole point of the show's existence, and explains why every other BB in the world still has 24/7 LF.

For god's sake, we know that the live feed did affect the series early on. But in recent years live feed has been nothing.

Nick obviously beneffitted hugely from live feed. But times move on, and shows move on. Live Feed is of minimal importance now.

It is not essential to the majority of the audience, contrary to your ridiculous thoughts. The majority of the audience do NOT watch the live feed. It is just a few 1000 fans like us who watch it.

No one else cares. If getting rid of live feed was such a shocking decision, the media would have written articles about it and complained. But no one has even made mention about it apart from the Daily Star, which is the worst newspaper in our country.

The live feed will still be there. Nothing is being saved at all. But C4 just won't be broadcasting it. How much do you really think it costs to have someone hit the tweety bird button occasionally? The live feed was still attracting around a million viewers over the course of every 24 hours during BB9 (although only maybe 150-200,000 might have been watching at any one time). Even that isn't bad when you look at the tiny viewing figures Richard & Judy cable show got, for example.

No. You are wrong with your facts and figures. The red button live feed rarely got over 20,000 viewers. That is a fact. You cannot dismiss that.

Yiour claim that nearly 1 million people watch live feed per day is a huge overestimation.

I am a neutral- I am disappointed by the axing of the feed byut I can understand the situation. You on the other hand have a particular point to prove, and are churning out false lies.

Hence, you're a liar.

I don't think BB10 will be a flop - I know it will. It already is. It cannot possibly be anything else. But I promise not to gloat when it inevitably bombs

Hey, if you know BB10 is a flop, why don't you leave the forum and stop talking about it and brining a negative view constantly over here and on DS. Just stop.

Maybe it will get the worst ratings ever. Does that mean it's because of live feed? No.

BB4, BB8 flopped in the ratings, and both had live feed. So your theory is absolutely absurd.

The delusional have deluded themselves. Grow up, move on and stop moaning.

[Wildcat!]

An yes, this place was completely dead during CBB! In fact, I think me and about 3 other people actually cared to make posts about what was going on in the house, outside of the one hour highlight show. ANd this is gonna be even worst givent that its 3 months long.

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Stentionhouse


Just answer this one question (which C4 have adamantly refused to, no matter how many people ask it): why does every other BB in the world still have round the clock live feed?

Simple answer. Because those other BB's care about the shows future. Channel 4 does not. Thats pretty obvious. If they did, they would try to improve it, not basically make it a soap opera. So, I hope some of you guys will enjoy a well scripted 3 months BB!

[President]

Just answer this one question (which C4 have adamantly refused to, no matter how many people ask it): why does every other BB in the world still have round the clock live feed?

Our show is completely different to others, because there have been about 18 series! 18! No other country has had so many series.

Inevtibaly the interest in the shwo will drop after so many series, hence live feed demand drops.

For other countries live feed is essential because they've had such a little experience of wathcing the show, for exmaple like us during BB1-BB5.

But once you've done so many series, live feed is unimportant. I mean just look at BB Australia: the show has even been axed.

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by President

As I've said in one of my previous posts, I accept that the forum experience will not be as good as preious years.

But the majority of the BB audience do NOT use forums. So it won't make a difference to them.

For 90%+ of viewers, the highlights and eviction shows are the only bits they watch for BB.

Please try and grasp that.

Why do you keep going back to BB1?!

Yes, BB1 was hugely affected by the live feed which wasvery popualr, I admit.

But in recent years the live feed service has been very low-key and used by hardly anyone.

You can't compare now to BB1. You simply can't. But for some reason, you are. You perfectly know that the live feed is not as essential now as 10 years ago.

Oh please try and get some perspective son.

For god's sake, we know that the live feed did affect the series early on. But in recent years live feed has been nothing.

Nick obviously beneffitted hugely from live feed. But times move on, and shows move on. Live Feed is of minimal importance now.

It is not essential to the majority of the audience, contrary to your ridiculous thoughts. The majority of the audience do NOT watch the live feed. It is just a few 1000 fans like us who watch it.

No one else cares. If getting rid of live feed was such a shocking decision, the media would have written articles about it and complained. But no one has even made mention about it apart from the Daily Star, which is the worst newspaper in our country.

No. You are wrong with your facts and figures. The red button live feed rarely got over 20,000 viewers. That is a fact. You cannot dismiss that.

Yiour claim that nearly 1 million people watch live feed per day is a huge overestimation.

I am a neutral- I am disappointed by the axing of the feed byut I can understand the situation. You on the other hand have a particular point to prove, and are churning out false lies.

Hence, you're a liar.

Hey, if you know BB10 is a flop, why don't you leave the forum and stop talking about it and brining a negative view constantly over here and on DS. Just stop.

Maybe it will get the worst ratings ever. Does that mean it's because of live feed? No.

BB4, BB8 flopped in the ratings, and both had live feed. So your theory is absolutely absurd.

The delusional have deluded themselves. Grow up, move on and stop moaning.

BB4 wasn't a ratings flop. It just seemed that way after the extraordinarily high ratings of BB3. And C4 would kill to have BB8's viewing figures now.

I was under the impression this forum (and DSBB) was for the discussion of BB - be it positive or negative or a bit of both. Nothing I (or you) say or do will make any difference either way to the outcome

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by President

Our show is completely different to others, because there have been about 18 series! 18! No other country has had so many series.

Inevtibaly the interest in the shwo will drop after so many series, hence live feed demand drops.

For other countries live feed is essential because they've had such a little experience of wathcing the show, for exmaple like us during BB1-BB5.

But once you've done so many series, live feed is unimportant. I mean just look at BB Australia: the show has even been axed.

As of BB7 (the 13th series), the ratings were holding up great and there was no sign of enthusiasm or viewing figures diminishing. Channel 4 are wholly to blame for the problems the show now has.

The whole premise of Big Brother is that viewers have the ability to watch the housemates at any time. That's the one fundamental aspect of BB that cannot be altered. Take away the live feed and suddenly you have just another boring reality show. It will be a soap opera. Anything they want to stop the viewers seeing they'll just not include in the edit. As they did during CBB6 (it was so obvious even the housemates - particularly Tommy - used to talk about it).

BBUK has become a laughing stock and Endemol are absolutely furious.

[President]

BB4 wasn't a ratings flop. It just seemed that way after the extraordinarily high ratings of BB3. And C4 would kill to have BB8's viewing figures now.

At the time though, those ratings were flops.

It's easy to look back now and say: "Hey, you know what they were quite good".

But actually they weren't. After a succesful series, most programmes want to hold onto that audience. Just look at Britain's Got Talent. Last year saw a huge surge in ratings, and this year has continued a surge.

Now, I'm not saying BB4 should have matched BB3's figures. But it should have had a better audience retention. A loss of 1.3m was big. You can't deny that. It was a ratings flop, and the same for BB8.

You know it, but because of your biased views you won't publicly say it.

I was under the impression this forum (and DSBB) was for the discussion of BB - be it positive or negative or a bit of both. Nothing I (or you) say or do will make any difference either way to the outcome

Of course, I do understand that. BUt if you constantly moan about something, as advice: it would be best if you stop moaning by not coming on these forums.

Obviously you seem to have a huge emotional attachment to the show- one attachment far bigger than a normal sane person. Hence you've been emotionally damaged by the removal of live feed, and it seems like you're draining your sorrows onto the forums.

Unfortunately Blondedumbition, it's quite annoying to us lot who just want to enjoy the experience. So why don't you stay in your dedicated "Live Feed Appreciation" threads or simply leave to make this much easier for all of us.

Thank you, and I hope you have got well after you hurt your head last year. Maybe that's causing some of those emotional problems I've talked about abve.

[President]

As of BB7 (the 13th series), the ratings were holding up great and there was no sign of enthusiasm or viewing figures diminishing. Channel 4 are wholly to blame for the problems the show now has.

O dear oh dear.

You're completely missing the point son. Completely.

The loss of viewers in the last couple of years has mainly been due to the farcical CBB5, which made a lot of people furious. It's a fact that CBB5 is the main reason why viewership has declined so much.

Do not make up another reason for the show's decline. You know perfectly well that Shilpa-Gate was a big factor.

The whole premise of Big Brother is that viewers have the ability to watch the housemates at any time. That's the one fundamental aspect of BB that cannot be altered. Take away the live feed and suddenly you have just another boring reality show. It will be a soap opera. Anything they want to stop the viewers seeing they'll just not include in the edit. As they did during CBB6 (it was so obvious even the housemates - particularly Tommy - used to talk about it).

Actually, that was the premise of Big Brother when it first started out. Like all shows, there has to be evolution.

The live feed is rendered pointless now. At first it was evolutionary and fresh and new, so had a big appeal.

After 18 series, it's no longer needed. Hence the big loss in demand. You are in such a little muinority, it's unbelievable.

BBUK has become a laughing stock and Endemol are absolutely furious.

It's not really a laughing stock because of the live feed. 3m people or so still enjoy it. Yes, a lot of people hate it: but it's not because of there being no live feed. It's because BB is seen as a trashy show. Can't you understand that- or did you lose the competence and ability to use common sense after your "injury" last year?

You're the laughing stock in my opinion. The delusional like you are pointless beings. Won't listen to anyone else's opinions and you think you're right all the time. Just grow up... you sound like a little baby boy crying over and over again about the same thing .

[ross-oaft]

It's not going to bother me very much. Reason being it gets me frustated when the voices are blocked when something interesting is said. I can understand why people are angry with the axe of live feed because it does appear a vital part of the original big brother concept.

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by President

At the time though, those ratings were flops.

It's easy to look back now and say: "Hey, you know what they were quite good".

But actually they weren't. After a succesful series, most programmes want to hold onto that audience. Just look at Britain's Got Talent. Last year saw a huge surge in ratings, and this year has continued a surge.

Now, I'm not saying BB4 should have matched BB3's figures. But it should have had a better audience retention. A loss of 1.3m was big. You can't deny that. It was a ratings flop, and the same for BB8.

You know it, but because of your biased views you won't publicly say it.

Of course, I do understand that. BUt if you constantly moan about something, as advice: it would be best if you stop moaning by not coming on these forums.

Obviously you seem to have a huge emotional attachment to the show- one attachment far bigger than a normal sane person. Hence you've been emotionally damaged by the removal of live feed, and it seems like you're draining your sorrows onto the forums.

Unfortunately Blondedumbition, it's quite annoying to us lot who just want to enjoy the experience. So why don't you stay in your dedicated "Live Feed Appreciation" threads or simply leave to make this much easier for all of us.

Thank you, and I hope you have got well after you hurt your head last year. Maybe that's causing some of those emotional problems I've talked about abve.

BB4 was a flop. It was dire. It was hideously boring. But the ratings were still considered excellent by C4. The reason for the makeover that followed in BB5 wasn't one focused on boosting the ratings so much as giving BB its edge back. BB8 was also a flop - I never suggested it wasn't, only that C4 would love to have almost 4 million viewers again, but they've alienated so many former fans that they'll never win them back again.

I have never claimed to be sane. IMHO, no one who spends hours talking about wannabes living in a house on some demented RTV show can be judged sane. If I'm wrong about something, I'll admit it. But I know I'm right regarding the loss of the live feed. So I'll continue to bang on. Please feel free to ignore my posts and stop replying to them, something you oddly seem compelled to do.

I didn't hurt my head, I had major brain surgery to remove a bleeding tumour. It hasn't had any lasting effects, though, except to make me a lot less argumentative than I used to be. I am now far more agreeable and rarely get annoyed by even the most tiresome forumites these days

[Stentionhouse]

Damn this weird board and it's buttons in the wrong places

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by President

O dear oh dear.

You're completely missing the point son. Completely.

The loss of viewers in the last couple of years has mainly been due to the farcical CBB5, which made a lot of people furious. It's a fact that CBB5 is the main reason why viewership has declined so much.

Do not make up another reason for the show's decline. You know perfectly well that Shilpa-Gate was a big factor.

Actually, that was the premise of Big Brother when it first started out. Like all shows, there has to be evolution.

The live feed is rendered pointless now. At first it was evolutionary and fresh and new, so had a big appeal.

After 18 series, it's no longer needed. Hence the big loss in demand. You are in such a little muinority, it's unbelievable.

It's not really a laughing stock because of the live feed. 3m people or so still enjoy it. Yes, a lot of people hate it: but it's not because of there being no live feed. It's because BB is seen as a trashy show. Can't you understand that- or did you lose the competence and ability to use common sense after your "injury" last year?

You're the laughing stock in my opinion. The delusional like you are pointless beings. Won't listen to anyone else's opinions and you think you're right all the time. Just grow up... you sound like a little baby boy crying over and over again about the same thing .

Erm...I was referring to Shilpagate when I said the problems were of C4's making. It was their idiotic idea to put Jade & co in the CBB5, which everyone but them knew would end in disaster.

Despite the live feed having no appeal, according to you, every other BB in the world still has it. Out of a sense of nostalgia, I expect, not because anyone is really interested in it

There is no way you can say the lack of LF won't affect the show because in CBB6 it did, and we haven't yet had a three month series with non-celebs in the house. That's obviously where the lack of feed will really be felt.

Now, isn't it time you were doing your homework?

[President]

BB4 was a flop. It was dire. It was hideously boring. But the ratings were still considered excellent by C4. The reason for the makeover that followed in BB5 wasn't one focused on boosting the ratings so much as giving BB its edge back.

Yes, the BB4 ratings were exellent for a Channel 4 show. But it must have been disappointing for the channel that there was such a sharp drop compared to BB3, because there could have been potentital for another 5m series if it had been good.

BB8 was also a flop - I never suggested it wasn't, only that C4 would love to have almost 4 million viewers again, but they've alienated so many former fans that they'll never win them back again.

Of course.

I have never claimed to be sane. IMHO, no one who spends hours talking about wannabes living in a house on some demented RTV show can be judged sane.

Thanks for clearing that up.

If I'm wrong about something, I'll admit it. But I know I'm right regarding the loss of the live feed. So I'll continue to bang on.

No, you're not definitely right. It's an opinion. It's not a fact.

Please feel free to ignore my posts and stop replying to them, something you oddly seem compelled to do.

This is a discussion forum. Maybe you should expect people to reply to your posts. Not everyone will agree with what you say.

I didn't hurt my head, I had major brain surgery to remove a bleeding tumour. It hasn't had any lasting effects, though, except to make me a lot less argumentative than I used to be. I am now far more agreeable and rarely get annoyed by even the most tiresome forumites these days

If you're like this right now, I do dread how you were pre-op. Hope your recovery is going well.

Erm...I was referring to Shilpagate when I said the problems were of C4's making. It was their idiotic idea to put Jade & co in the CBB5, which everyone but them knew would end in disaster.

Ok, maybe you should have made it clearer in your previous post.

Despite the live feed having no appeal, according to you, every other BB in the world still has it.

Well I never said it has "no appeal". But factually and statically, the appeal for Live Feed is very small compared to the total Big Brother audience. I wish it was still around, but I can accept the decision.

As explained in my previous post, let's see if these other countries will even have BB running after it's 18th series, let alone live feed.

Out of a sense of nostalgia, I expect, not because anyone is really interested in it

Yes, you are being nostalgic. You seem to be forgetting that the live feed was pretty awful in recent years. For BB9, you had no web feed and there were breaks every so often, bird tweeting, sound loss, etc.

But hey- you seem to think live feed recently was like BB1. Get a grip son, because you know it wasn't.

There is no way you can say the lack of LF won't affect the show because in CBB6 it did, and we haven't yet had a three month series with non-celebs in the house. That's obviously where the lack of feed will really be felt.

I never said it would NOT affect the show. Of course it will, but perhaps as much a factor as you are suggesting.

CBB6 was an awful series anyways. You can't know that because you didn't watch it according to your previous post. Maybe you're lying actually... you're good at that, aren't you Blondedumbition?

The housemates were terrible, the tasks were lazy, the house was crap, the atmosphere was poor. The series as a whole was a disaster. The lack of live feed was a small factor in the series' decline, not a big one which you are inferring.

Now, isn't it time you were doing your homework?

No, I think you should be addressing that to your self. You're the one that's acting like a little baby, ranting on and on about the same old thing like a broken record.

Get a grip of yourself. Your health has already suffered, don't worsen it by being so emotional about a television show which has evolved in 10 years. It's perfectly normal for tv shows to move on. The whol live feed being fundamental thing was indeed the case for the first few series, but hasn't been the case in recent years.

You know that, but you've got a delusional mind which will not accept other people's valid opinions. Blimey, people like you really need to sit down and take everything into account and accept certain decisions.

Now get on with tyour homework Blondedumbition- you "Poodle Picker" who enjoys "Hunky Guys"... LMAO... how pathetic; you said you would never join DS again, and yet you did. You even created a new alias to hide yourself. Pathetic... LMAO!!!!

[Stentionhouse]

What's a poodle picker? Are you confusing me with someone else?

[President]

Originally posted by Stentionhouse
What's a poodle picker? Are you confusing me with someone else?

I don't have a clue what it is.

But on your Blondedumbition profile, you originally said you were a 'Poodle Picker' whatever that means. It's not there anymore.

Obviously you're trying to make sure your real identity was not found out, but a lot of people know that it's you Stentionhouse. Even your arch nemesis- Eternal Life knows it's you.

You really should try and be better at conceiling your identity. I mean, if you go on your YouTube channel it says RIP BB or something similar. Your blonde account says the same thing.

I found it funny that you pretended you were either female or a gay by saying you have an interest in "Hunky Guys". You've previously said you're married to a female. So those new things you said, that made me laugh .

LOL, pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by President

I don't have a clue what it is.

But on your Blondedumbition profile, you originally said you were a 'Poodle Picker' whatever that means. It's not there anymore.

Obviously you're trying to make sure your real identity was not found out, but a lot of people know that it's you Stentionhouse. Even your arch nemesis- Eternal Life knows it's you.

You really should try and be better at conceiling your identity. I mean, if you go on your YouTube channel it says RIP BB or something similar. Your blonde account says the same thing.

I found it funny that you pretended you were either female or a gay by saying you have an interest in "Hunky Guys". You've previously said you're married to a female. So those new things you said, that made me laugh .

LOL, pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.

So your real name is President - or are you concealing your identity too?

If I wanted to conceal my identity, I could easily do so and have on several occasions on DS, for fun One of my nyms was actually quite well known for a while

Have you run mad - since when has Eternal Life been my nemesis, arch or otherwise? I don't ever remember talking to her when I was on DSBB.

Also, I'm not and have never been married.

[President]

So your real name is President - or are you concealing your identity too?

Well of course my real name isn't President... duhh .

At least I'm not pretending to be someone else. We all know you're blondedumbition.

If I wanted to conceal my identity, I could easily do so and have on several occasions on DS, for fun One of my nyms was actually quite well known for a while

Mr Blonde, was it?

Have you run mad - since when has Eternal Life been my nemesis, arch or otherwise? I don't ever remember talking to her when I was on DSBB.

Well she's got a bad opinion of you. Just check out her DTV posts.

Also, I'm not and have never been married.

Oh right, so you lied before as well. When you stopped going on your YouTube account due to your injury, someone logged into your YouTube account and said they were your wife and told all of us what had happened to you.

Maybe it was you after all?