[pinkmichk]

the helmet is def going to need something doing to it there will be a downer mood on the race (what time is it on tomorrow?)

[Iceman]

Massa to miss Hungarian Grand Prix after undergoing surgery Ferrari’s Felipe Massa will not race in Sunday’s Hungarian Grand Prix following his high-speed qualifying crash at the Hungaroring, the team have confirmed. Massa was airlifted to AEK Hospital in Budapest, where he is in a stable condition.

“Felipe was conscious at the arrival at the hospital,” said a Ferrari statement, adding that Massa had suffered a cut on his forehead, concussion and a bone lesion of the skull. Massa underwent surgery to treat these conditions, the outcome of which was positive. He will now remain under observation in intensive care.

The Brazilian speared off the track and into the tyre wall at Turn 4 late in the Q2 session after a rear damper spring that had come loose from the Brawn car of Rubens Barrichello struck his helmet.

Medics were quickly in attendance and the start of Q3 was delayed as they extricated the Brazilian. After initial examinations at the medical centre, Massa, eighth fastest in Q2, was transferred to hospital for further treatment.

Ferrari are expected to release an update on Massa's condition on Sunday morning.

[Iceman]

Below is the provisional grid for the Hungarian Grand Prix with each car's weight.
Note - Ferrari’s Felipe Massa will not race following his qualifying accident.

1. Fernando Alonso, Renault, 637.5kg
2. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 655
3. Mark Webber, Red Bull, 652
4. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 650.5
5. Nico Rosberg, Williams, 654
6. Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren, 655.5
7. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 651.5
8. Jenson Button, Brawn GP, 664.5
9. Kazuki Nakajima, Williams, 658
10. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso, 671.5
11. Jarno Trulli, Toyota, 671.3
12. Rubens Barrichello, Brawn GP, 689
13. Timo Glock, Toyota, 679.2
14. Nelson Piquet, Renault, 667.7
15. Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber, 658
16. Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India, 680.5
17. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 683.5
18. Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber, 666
19. Jaime Alguersuari, Toro Rosso, 675.5

[Iceman]

Originally posted by Iceman

Just bumping in case people dont know what were talking about plus sky havent shown the crash now in a few hours...

bump bump bump

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
the helmet is def going to need something doing to it there will be a downer mood on the race (what time is it on tomorrow?)

Im not sure of start time I think it's 1 o clock. Oh and MotoGP starts straight after on BBC1 instead of BBC 3 for a change

[pinkmichk]

he had no chance of being allowed to race tomorrow so i dont get why they bother saying that
motogps motorbikes isnt it?

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
he had no chance of being allowed to race tomorrow so i dont get why they bother saying that
motogps motorbikes isnt it?

Yeah it is but the only reason they have it on BBC1 tomorrow and not BBC3 is because its in Donnington, they would never do it otherwise.....

Still no more updates yet......

[pinkmichk]

i dont watch motorbikes any car racing i like but i just cant see the appeal in motorbikes i was worried there how much bribing i would need to do to have near enough the whole day away from cbeebies

i hope we have a bit more of a in detail rather than stating the obvious almost update in the morning

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
i dont watch motorbikes any car racing i like but i just cant see the appeal in motorbikes i was worried there how much bribing i would need to do to have near enough the whole day away from cbeebies

i hope we have a bit more of a in detail rather than stating the obvious almost update in the morning

Yes I think it will be a detailed one alright, looks like they aren't going to race the second car, Schumacher is biding his time muahahahahahahaha

[pinkmichk]

i just got this from the bbc

"During the course of his examination they established that he suffered a serious, life-threatening injuries including loss of consciousness and a fracture of the forehead on the left side and a fracture on the base of the skull."

its bad enough the forehead fracture cos thats the area that memory and so on can be affected as in the case of richard hammond but a base of skull fracture is pretty serious more so than the forehead one they will be trying to bring him round tomorrow out of the medically induced coma but it can take at least a week for the swelling to die down enough to have even any idea of what you are properly dealing with (again back to hammonds crash)

oh and i have just been reading and some people are saying that while it fell off barrichellos car it seemed to come from off the track i cant believe conspiracy theorists are out in force already while a man lays critical in hospital

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
i just got this from the bbc

its bad enough the forehead fracture cos thats the area that memory and so on can be affected as in the case of richard hammond but a base of skull fracture is pretty serious more so than the forehead one they will be trying to bring him round tomorrow out of the medically induced coma but it can take at least a week for the swelling to die down enough to have even any idea of what you are properly dealing with (again back to hammonds crash)

oh and i have just been reading and some people are saying that while it fell off barrichellos car it seemed to come from off the track i cant believe conspiracy theorists are out in force already while a man lays critical in hospital

I think it's safe to say his season is over at least.....

So long as he's okay i suppose that's all he eally cares about now...

[pinkmichk]

season def over who knows if he will get back in a f1 car ever again apparently mika hakkanon had a crash much like this and had some brain injury but went on to win 2 championships after

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
season def over who knows if he will get back in a f1 car ever again apparently mika hakkanon had a crash much like this and had some brain injury but went on to win 2 championships after

Yeah they said he'd never walk again let alone race and he did like you said and won 2 championships........

still no updates

[Iceman]

Discuss the Hungarian Grand Prix here.

The Formula 1 thread keeps messing up when races are on. I asked if it will be merged afterwards and was told it was okay.

Start time 1 o clock

[30stone]

If im up, ill watch from the start
im guessing ill watch at abou 20 laps in lol..


And i have found Ayrton Senna the hero, tonight

[Iceman]

Originally posted by 30stone
If im up, ill watch from the start
im guessing ill watch at abou 20 laps in lol..


And i have found Ayrton Senna the hero, tonight

Ayrton Senna = Legend

Greatest of his Era

Sadly missed

[30stone]

Who has got pole position btw?

Webber?

I know button is 8th

and hamilton like 4th.

but because the times didnt come up at the end, i havent a clue..

[Iceman]

Alonso on pole followed by red bulls ten lewis i think

[30stone]

Alonso wont be racing though? as hes injured?

and whats red bulls ten?

[Iceman]

Felipe Massa’s condition was described as ‘stable’ on Sunday morning, with Ferrari confirming that there were no complications overnight following the Brazilian’s successful surgery for a skull fracture at Budapest’s AEK Hospital.

Massa sustained the fracture and concussion during his high-speed crash at the Hungaroring in Saturday’s qualifying session, in which he was struck on the head by a spring from the Brawn car of Rubens Barrichello.

After surgery he was put into an induced coma, a standard procedure following such an operation, and remained under observation in intensive care overnight.

"After undergoing an operation yesterday afternoon, Felipe Massa's condition remains stable and there were no further complications through the night,” said a Ferrari statement.

"He will be given another CT scan today, which will provide more precise information."

[Iceman]

Originally posted by 30stone
Alonso wont be racing though? as hes injured?

and whats red bulls ten?

No Alonso on Pole!!


I meant to write Red bulls, then!

Race starting in 15 minutes! Hamilton needs to be careful!

[psykosue]

come on mclaren there my team have been 4 ages

[pinkmichk]

ben its massa injured not alonso

i'm hoping hamilton doesnt mess it up first couple of corners he could have a good race if he keeps his head grounded

[Iceman]

Originally posted by psykosue
come on mclaren there my team have been 4 ages

Looking good today 2 cars starting in top 10, I think Vettel will do good today.

[pinkmichk]

did i hear right that he was awake for a bit although i still think we not getting all the details they have