[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Boots the Chemist will offer vaccination

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...bs/ar-BB1cDj8L

How's that work then? I looked into how you volunteer as an innoculator and it said you had to be a band 4 nurse .
Will every boots have one of those?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

How's that work then? I looked into how you volunteer as an innoculator and it said you had to be a band 4 nurse .
Will every boots have one of those?

Pretty sure Pharmacists have been giving out the flu jab for years

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

are they going to charge an obscene amount for doing it like they do with the test?

that will be 900.00 please

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

How's that work then? I looked into how you volunteer as an innoculator and it said you had to be a band 4 nurse .
Will every boots have one of those?

There's no such thing as a band 4 nurse, that would be a Nursing Associate or experienced HCA. The entry band for a registered nurse is B5.

Pharmacists can give medications (obviously) and are at least B6 NHS equivalent, B7 if they're more experienced. They might need some additional training in giving an injection, but then, so will a lot of nurses and other healthcare staff (as not all roles involve needle use).

That said, most pharmacists definitely don't have time to be giving injections themselves at the best of times, so most likely, the big chain pharmacies would hire nurses or nursing associates to do the actual jabbing (a lot of bigger pharmacies will already have one or two on staff).

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Pretty sure Pharmacists have been giving out the flu jab for years

Ah so ithat will be the actual pharmacist? On top of their regular work that's a lot I'd say, but fair play if boots are willing to do it and it's free then why not?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There's no such thing as a band 4 nurse, that would be a Nursing Associate or experienced HCA. The entry band for a registered nurse is B5.

Pharmacists can give medications (obviously) and are at least B6 NHS equivalent, B7 if they're more experienced. They might need some additional training in giving an injection, but then, so will a lot of nurses and other healthcare staff (as not all roles involve needle use).

That said, most pharmacists definitely don't have time to be giving injections themselves at the best of times, so most likely, the big chain pharmacies would hire nurses or nursing associates to do the actual jabbing (a lot of bigger pharmacies will already have one or two on staff).

Sigh...

Here professor,

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We are looking for healthcare professionals, administrators and volunteers from across Essex and Suffolk to lead our fight against coronavirus – you could be part of it!

Working with NHS colleagues across the two counties, we are gearing up in the next few weeks to open more vaccination centres with the Oxford University/AstraZenaca jab now approved and being rolled out.

We are seeking more great people for the following temporary roles:

Registered clinical managers (band 8a)Registered healthcare professionals (bands 5 and 6)Immunisers (band 4)Healthcare assistants (band 3)Bank admin support (band 3)Volunteer stewards

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Cherie

that will be 900.00 please

Has your Aunt had her appointment through Cherie?

[bots]

i received a letter from the NHS today that I opened with barely contained excitement. It turned out to be an invitation to have a flu vaccination

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Again Zizu you literallly can't lose 2kg of muscle a day for 21 days. You do not have 42kg of muscle (unless you're a bodybuilder or a pro wrestler or something... MAYBE a 6'2 Rugby player).



I think 2kg is the absolute peak of muscle loss, and again it applies to anyone in a medical coma / on ventilator, it's not a Covid thing.



With a lot of muscle loss yes it could take months to rebuild that muscle afterwards... muscle deteriorates a LOT faster than it builds. The "years" claim is likely because a lot of the people affected will be older/frail already and thus not able to engage in more intensive physiotherapy. It should really be 6 months max for a younger adult.

Found this online


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Sedated coronavirus patients have suffered delusions and hallucinations, and the mental and physical trauma is so devastating some "say they would rather have died ", says London consultant Dr Zudin Puthucheary


Critically ill patients in comas of a working age lose muscle before fat, with around 2-3% of muscle mass typically wasting away a day, which for a 90kg patient would mean a loss of 1-2kg a day.

Dr Puthucheary, an Intensive Care Society national rehabilitation lead, told Mirror Online: "Some people will be able to say in two to three years time that they are happy to be alive.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...l-22307375.amp


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Has your Aunt had her appointment through Cherie?

No nothing yet, she has friends who have been called for theirs but they are with different surgeries. Will let you know when it happens! She wasn't shielding so doesn't come under that cohort

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

How's that work then? I looked into how you volunteer as an innoculator and it said you had to be a band 4 nurse .
Will every boots have one of those?

I've signed up to be a volunteer at the immunisation centres. It will probably just involve signposting people on where they need to go. You have to commit to 2 6 hour shifts a month but could be called for more. I wanted to do the actual injections but self injecting or injecting my mum when she was ill doesn't qualify me unfortunately Not heard anything since I registered but hope I get called so I can be of some help at this time.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No nothing yet, she has friends who have been called for theirs but they are with different surgeries. Will let you know when it happens! She wasn't shielding so doesn't come under that cohort

Hope its soon for her. My dad is chomping on the bit....he is 4th on the list (over 70 with shielding letter).

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I've signed up to be a volunteer at the immunisation centres. It will probably just involve signposting people on where they need to go. You have to commit to 2 6 hour shifts a month but could be called for more. I wanted to do the actual injections but self injecting or injecting my mum when she was ill doesn't qualify me unfortunately Not heard anything since I registered but hope I get called so I can be of some help at this time.

Yeah I wanted to stick pins in people too lol! My badge makes me band 2. I'm already working silly hours at work so exposed enough tbh really and I know the guards at those sites are on a lot so I'm loathe to do it for free.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I've signed up to be a volunteer at the immunisation centres. It will probably just involve signposting people on where they need to go. You have to commit to 2 6 hour shifts a month but could be called for more. I wanted to do the actual injections but self injecting or injecting my mum when she was ill doesn't qualify me unfortunately Not heard anything since I registered but hope I get called so I can be of some help at this time.

Lovely idea Annie, I hope they call you

[Kizzy]

My mum had her jab on sat, was a bit disappointed she got the Oxford one but I've an awful feeling they're going to run out of the Pfizer before everyone has had their 2nd dose .. so probably for the best.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yeah I wanted to stick pins in people too lol! My badge makes me band 2. I'm already working silly hours at work so exposed enough tbh really and I know the guards at those sites are on a lot so I'm loathe to do it for free.

Ah, I'm furloughed so have plenty of time on my hands. The only concern is for my Dad as he is in our support bubble so hoping he gets called for his jab before I'm needed. I don't mind exposing myself but don't want to put him at any risk when I deliver his shopping etc.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Ah, I'm furloughed so have plenty of time on my hands. The only concern is for my Dad as he is in our support bubble so hoping he gets called for his jab before I'm needed. I don't mind exposing myself but don't want to put him at any risk when I deliver his shopping etc.

Did you say you're diabetic? It would probably be a tad risky for you too and as you say your a carer with a young son ... you're doing your bit Annie don't worry x

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

My mum had her jab on sat, was a bit disappointed she got the Oxford one but I've an awful feeling they're going to run out of the Pfizer before everyone has had their 2nd dose .. so probably for the best.

They can't mix the vaccines so whatever jab you get the second one has to be the same, glad your Mum has been sorted

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

They can't mix the vaccines so whatever jab you get the second one has to be the same, glad your Mum has been sorted

I'm aware of that, I still say there will be an issue with the 2nd pfizer doses in a couple of months due 'logistics' or some such thing.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Did you say you're diabetic? It would probably be a tad risky for you too and as you say your a carer with a young son ... you're doing your bit Annie don't worry x

No, I'm not diabetic. I had to self inject when I went through IVF so that was what I meant when I said that. I just feel a bit redundant at the moment lol so I have signed up. I had to tell them my current responsibilities so they may not call me but I would love to be able to do something tangible since as I can't work at the moment x

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm aware of that, I still say there will be an issue with the 2nd pfizer doses in a couple of months due 'logistics' or some such thing.

Yes I suspect they'll have simply given out "half" of the doses they had, without accounting for wastage, so when it comes to round 2 there'll be less-than-half available for a second dose.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yes I suspect they'll have simply given out "half" of the doses they had, without accounting for wastage, so when it comes to round 2 there'll be less-than-half available for a second dose.

jeez I hope they can count!

did your wife have any side affects from the jab?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

No, I'm not diabetic. I had to self inject when I went through IVF so that was what I meant when I said that. I just feel a bit redundant at the moment lol so I have signed up. I had to tell them my current responsibilities so they may not call me but I would love to be able to do something tangible since as I can't work at the moment x

Ah reet, well like you say they know you've someone vulnerable to look after and you'll be homeschooling?
I totally get what you mean though, you just want to participate in some way to feel you've done your bit, but just by adapting to the (changing) advice over the year you have

[bots]

they are already well advanced creating version 2 of the phhhhfizer vaccine, so in 2-3 months time the whole manufacture and distribution could be completely different. One of the main things about version 2 will be the ability to keep it at more normal temperatures

[AnnieK]

2.4 million had their first vaccine now. Seems to be speeding up now if we trust their numbers