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So another country has banned uk visitors ( Germany ) so are we the only country where omicron is running absolutely crazy ?

If so why would that be ?


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So another country has banned uk visitors ( Germany ) so are we the only country where omicron is running absolutely crazy ?

If so why would that be ?

Not the Same as what France has done:



[COVID-19: Germany announces quarantine
for UK travellers to slow Omicron spread

It comes after France banned travel to and from
the UK without a "compelling" reason
as concern grows in Europe over Britain's Omicron situation.]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...om-uk-12499609
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Not the Same as what France has done:



[COVID-19: Germany announces quarantine
for UK travellers to slow Omicron spread

It comes after France banned travel to and from
the UK without a "compelling" reason
as concern grows in Europe over Britain's Omicron situation.]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...om-uk-12499609

Ok but it still suggests that they regard the UK as a concern .. why though


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Ok but it still suggests that they regard the UK as a concern .. why though

Because we have High numbers catching Omicron,


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has had the sense to Lockdown Proper
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Also someone just said on the radio that little children ( say under 7) aren’t a concern as they RARELY pass on the COVID-19 infection as they only carry a very small viral load ?!??


Is this true or another piece of misinformation?


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Also someone just said on the radio that little children ( say under 7) aren’t a concern as they RARELY pass on the COVID-19 infection as they only carry a very small viral load ?!??


Is this true or another piece of misinformation?


I think they do pass it on.
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[COVID news live: Sajid Javid says actual coronavirus infections
'significantly higher' than official figures show

Coronavirus latest as SAGE warns more
restrictions are needed "within days", tougher
measures 'could be imposed after Boxing Day'; Omicron cases
in the UK increase by more than 10,000;
Netherlands goes into lockdown.]


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Surely if it’s so virulent the whole world would be shutting down to all other countries rather than just the uk

Just wondered why we seem to be doing worse than everyone else ?


Is it simply due to us being a tiny island with a dense ( both meanings ) population ??


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Surely if it’s so virulent the whole world would be shutting down to all other countries rather than just the uk

Just wondered why we seem to be doing worse than everyone else ?


Is it simply due to us being a tiny island with a dense ( both meanings ) population ??

Yes New York
has Omicron as bad as the UK.


But China gets Omicron in a Port
they Close that Port
Test EVERYONE
Put's it into fast Lockdown.
No one can leave that zone
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"Still, it is worth pointing out that, at every stage, the models used by public health
agencies exaggerated the numbers of infections and of deaths. Indeed, it may well be
that, once again, the lockdown will come into effect only after the peak in new infections
has passed. Why do our leaders keep falling for it?

Because, I’m afraid, all the incentives are stacked one way. No politician ever gets into
trouble for erring on the side of caution. Nor does any public health adviser. No one has
ever been hounded from office for spending too much on test and trace, or for imposing
restrictions that had little effect, or for making predictions that were excessively
alarmist. Make the slightest slip the other way, though, and you’re finished."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...boris-dont-do/
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"Still, it is worth pointing out that, at every stage, the models used by public health
agencies exaggerated the numbers of infections and of deaths. Indeed, it may well be
that, once again, the lockdown will come into effect only after the peak in new infections
has passed. Why do our leaders keep falling for it?

Because, I’m afraid, all the incentives are stacked one way. No politician ever gets into
trouble for erring on the side of caution. Nor does any public health adviser. No one has
ever been hounded from office for spending too much on test and trace, or for imposing
restrictions that had little effect, or for making predictions that were excessively
alarmist. Make the slightest slip the other way, though, and you’re finished."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...boris-dont-do/

Precisely


Wales had a circuit breaker last year that made no difference at all ...
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Wales had a circuit breaker last year that made no difference at all ...

They did it too late.
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We always fare badly because we're densely populated and see a lot of international travel. Plus a lot of European countries basically never gave up restrictions whereas we've thankfully had none

Holland going back into lockdown will tell you that plenty of other countries are seeing massive cases as well though
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Covid hotspot figures show NHS may avoid being overwhelmed by omicron - here’s why

Sharp rise in cases in South Northamptonshire has not been followed by
comparable growth in hospital admissions, data show

Analysis by The Telegraph of Britain’s outbreak hotspot of the new variant
reveals that the spike in cases is not being followed by a comparable rise in
hospital admissions.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...elmed-omicron/
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I think part of the issue is that people see nurses on a break when a ward is busy and think “hmph they shouldn’t get a break when it’s so busy”. But it’s always that busy… and they don’t get paid for that break… so essentially it’s saying that hospital staff shouldn’t get breaks, ever, and should also work an extra half hour a day for no pay.

I don’t know about anyone else, but if I’m in hospital, I don’t want to be being watched over by a member of medical staff who is burnt out and hasn’t eaten all day? Just asking for critical errors to happen.

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Sunday 19/12/21

45 have Died
82,886 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,611

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
875


147,218 Total UK Deaths of Covid-19


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
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Another fall in cases, Omicron is over
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Sadly it is not
still growing
Spreading much faster
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its certainly not rising exponentially that's for sure. No doubt the doom mongers will continue with their narrative regardless
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What?

Also, notice when mentioning the one death she uses the word "with" and not "from"



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[Number of cases has risen by 32,473 (64.4%) in
seven days but is lower than yesterday's figure of 90,418]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ll-111-45.html
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[Number of cases has risen by 32,473 (64.4%) in
seven days but is lower than yesterday's figure of 90,418]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ll-111-45.html
they were showing empty streets in Scotland

why are they now showing crowded streets

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