[daniel-lewis-1985]

OH MY GOD!

Where the feck are they?

[Jake.]

Takes the piss on Sunday's...

[BB IS ALIVE]

OMDaizz, are they still not in, whats the hold up?

[ElProximo]

I'm going to be serious. This is about demographics and aim and this is language used by BB people. Even gay ones. So don't get 'PC' on this:

IF you decide to aim everything you got at the 15 year old girls, liberal-minded, homosexual audience then you CAN AND WILL be rewarded with a strong 800,000 dedicated core audience who, as we say over here, gives the most 'bang for the buck'. Most pop for the pound.
But less instantly gratifying is casting that broad net and 8 million fans less likely to smash voting lines or buy as many mobile apps can still pay-off big overall.

it MIGHT be... it MIGHT BE... the BB folks at 5 have seen this. Heard this. Not everyone wants to see OUTRAGEOUS GAY CLUB PARTY with combined NUTS MAGAZINE LIVE!!!!!!
Not everyone.
Maybe just take that down a notch. Maybe there is 10 minutes to put towards the psychology nerds out their. Who might think it's very intriguing to put on those sociology experiments (assigning some as scientists etc).
Or, have some 'normals' like an ordinary overweight girl or a short heavyset guy.

So BB might just be onto something here. Maybe. I think they are going the right way. I just dont know if this is a classic case of 'too little, too late'?

[Gstar]

^^ interesting read

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

I'm going to be serious. This is about demographics and aim and this is language used by BB people. Even gay ones. So don't get 'PC' on this:

IF you decide to aim everything you got at the 15 year old girls, liberal-minded, homosexual audience then you CAN AND WILL be rewarded with a strong 800,000 dedicated core audience who, as we say over here, gives the most 'bang for the buck'. Most pop for the pound.
But less instantly gratifying is casting that broad net and 8 million fans less likely to smash voting lines or buy as many mobile apps can still pay-off big overall.

it MIGHT be... it MIGHT BE... the BB folks at 5 have seen this. Heard this. Not everyone wants to see OUTRAGEOUS GAY CLUB PARTY with combined NUTS MAGAZINE LIVE!!!!!!
Not everyone.
Maybe just take that down a notch. Maybe there is 10 minutes to put towards the psychology nerds out their. Who might think it's very intriguing to put on those sociology experiments (assigning some as scientists etc).
Or, have some 'normals' like an ordinary overweight girl or a short heavyset guy.
So BB might just be onto something here. Maybe. I think they are going the right way. I just dont know if this is a classic case of 'too little, too late'?

Like Chris and Becky you mean?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

So where the feck are the ratings?

Piss take still dont even know what Saturday got.

[The_Big_Send_Off]

They only released BBC1 and ITV yesterday the w*nkers! When will we find out today! Hope it stayed around 1.4 dout it tho cuz of footy

[*mazedsalv**]

Saturday received 1.10m including +1

I'm pleasantly surprised, if a Saturday was to go under 1m, I thought that would be the one. It was a Saturday and up against the Wimbledon which peaked at a massive 8m.

MPD just beat BB by 50k and got 1.15m in the 10pm slot incl +1.

1.27m for last night including +1. The +1 part alone got 184k which was the highest of the series.

[*mazedsalv**]

Bumping this!!

[The_Big_Send_Off]

Arhh good glad it stayed over 1m was worried about last night, and thaught ratingings would go up on +1 due to football,

Hope this week task/twist keeps the rating steady and hope it gets 1.5+

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Pleased about Saturday but last nights is poor.

People probably switched off due to the dire first half.

[Jake.]

Very nice!

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Pleased about Saturday but last nights is poor.

People probably switched off due to the dire first half.

People were predicting sub 1m for last night because of the match. I think the opposite happened, judging by the thrashing last night of the match, a massive amount of people switched off the Euro, and some turned to BB. BB was only around 60k lower than ITV at the same time showing the Euro. I'm sure it beat BBC2 and Ch4 too.

I mean lately getting 1.4m. Only a loss of 100k during the Euro final is impressive. I don't know how anyone could have thought it would have gone higher than what it's been getting lately, with the biggest competition there could possibly be.

Euro averaged just over 10m on BBC1 and 2m on ITV, combined rating of 12m average.

[BB IS ALIVE]

I'm glad the saturday ratings are staying steady, BB12's sub-1 million ratings are what really brought down the average.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

People were predicting sub 1m for last night because of the match. I think the opposite happened, judging by the thrashing last night of the match, a massive amount of people switched off the Euro, and some turned to BB. BB was only around 60k lower than ITV at the same time showing the Euro. I'm sure it beat BBC2 and Ch4 too.

I mean lately getting 1.4m. Only a loss of 100k during the Euro final is impressive. I don't know how anyone could have thought it would have gone higher than what it's been getting lately, with the biggest competition there could possibly be.

Euro averaged just over 10m on BBC1 and 2m on ITV, combined rating of 12m average.

No offence but this does seem like excuses, excuses every day.

I wouldnt imagine BB's viewers are football fanatics. Its 2 very different type of viewers.

[Jake.]

Even those who aren't football fanatics were watching the match.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

No offence but this does seem like excuses, excuses every day.

I wouldnt imagine BB's viewers are football fanatics. Its 2 very different type of viewers.

Well what if someone else in their household wanted to wanted to watch the football?

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

No offence but this does seem like excuses, excuses every day.

I wouldnt imagine BB's viewers are football fanatics. Its 2 very different type of viewers.

Not really. Normal football is. Euro's and World Cup's are completely different, hence why normal matches average around 4m and Euro matches average 12m. The biggest competition for BB is over. Euro and WC has always been a problem for ANY show. All the soaps have been at 6m-7m, when they are normally at 8.5m at this time of the year. You need to look at the other ratings to understand how big the Euro's actually, people underestimate it.

Ch5 beat Ch4, BBC2 and nearly ITV last night.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

Not really. Normal football is. Euro's and World Cup's are completely different, hence why normal matches average around 4m and Euro matches average 12m. The biggest competition for BB is over. Euro and WC has always been a problem for ANY show. All the soaps have been at 6m-7m, when they are normally at 8.5m at this time of the year. You need to look at the other ratings to understand how big the Euro's actually, people underestimate it.

Ch5 beat Ch4, BBC2 and nearly ITV last night.

Not according to ds it didnt. the 9pm slot (the ugly truth) on c4 also beat c5 (bb).

All Day Shares (Sunday)

1. BBC One: 25.3%
2. ITV1: 7.4% <--- lowest ever?
3. BBC Two: 6.9%
4. Channel 4: 5.1%
5. ITV3: 4.2%
6. Channel 5: 4.1%
7. ITV2: 3.8%
8. Film4/Yesterday: 1.6%
9. More4: 1.5%
10. 5USA/BBC Three: 1.4%

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Not according to ds it didnt. the 9pm slot on c4 also beat c5.

All Day Shares (Sunday)

1. BBC One: 25.3%
2. ITV1: 7.4% <--- lowest ever?
3. BBC Two: 6.9%
4. Channel 4: 5.1%
5. ITV3: 4.2%
6. Channel 5: 4.1%
7. ITV2: 3.8%
8. Film4/Yesterday: 1.6%
9. More4: 1.5%
10. 5USA/BBC Three: 1.4%

That's all day shares. BB beat the others in the 9pm battle. Ch5 did badly besides BB, everything else was well under 1m. Actually to get precise the 9pm slot alone, BB was in front by 20k. 1.09 vs 1.07m. It was the Channel 4+1 that added more than the Channel5+1 though.

BB will be over 1.4m tonight anyway.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

That's all day shares. BB beat the others in the 9pm battle. Ch5 did badly besides BB, everything else was well under 1m. Actually to get precise the 9pm slot alone, BB was in front by 20k. 1.09 vs 1.07m. It was the Channel 4+1 that added more than the Channel5+1 though.

so bb didnt beat c4 in the 9pm slot then did it? using +1 only when its convenient isnt the best ploy.
sorry salv i admire your optimism but the spin being used is getting more extreme.
At this rate it wont be long until only peaks are being posted.

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by bobnot

so bb didnt beat c4 in the 9pm slot then did it?

People always go on about how the main show alone and how it did. So during the first showing BB did beat Ch4. Only by 20k though.

I'm not being OTT when I think it did very, very well against the match last night. 1.27m against the Euro final which peaked at a combined 15m+ is not to be sniffed at. It did better than numerous episodes of the last few days against much tougher competition.

BB will recover tonight to normal levels, as will every other programme. ITV had the 2nd lowest share of all time on Saturday and one of the lowest ever last night. BBC1 dominated with the match, so don't put it down to the quality of BB, put it down to the biggest event in the last 4 years.

[BB IS ALIVE]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

People always go on about how the main show alone and how it did. So during the first showing BB did beat Ch4. Only by 20k though.

I'm not being OTT when I think it did very, very well against the match last night. 1.27m against the Euro final which peaked at a combined 15m+ is not to be sniffed at. It did better than numerous episodes of the last few days against much tougher competition.

BB will recover tonight to normal levels, as will every other programme. ITV had the 2nd lowest share of all time on Saturday and one of the lowest ever last night. BBC1 dominated with the match, so don't put it down to the quality of BB, put it down to the biggest event in the last 4 years.

This, football is an event that knocks everything in the ratings, purely becuase big Tournaments like the Euros are an event every 4 years. BB did will to get 1.3 up against the match.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

Not really. Normal football is. Euro's and World Cup's are completely different, hence why normal matches average around 4m and Euro matches average 12m. The biggest competition for BB is over. Euro and WC has always been a problem for ANY show. All the soaps have been at 6m-7m, when they are normally at 8.5m at this time of the year. You need to look at the other ratings to understand how big the Euro's actually, people underestimate it.

Ch5 beat Ch4, BBC2 and nearly ITV last night.

BB3 was on during the world cup and thats the highest rated series to date.

Im not comparing Channel 5 viewers to how they were back in the day because i know that we are never going to see massive viewing figures anymore but the whole euro argument is just not valid imo.

What was last years excuse?

Ratings have been so low in the last week that im afraid the series average is gonna be down on last year which doesnt look good when it comes to renewing the classic BB next year.

The 1st 2 weeks officials were realy impressive with the show almost averaging 2 million but week 3's officials highlights are getting about 1.4/1.5 mostly. BB12's 3rd weeks episodes mostly got 1.6.

Plus last nights episode was sub 1 million without +1

Big Brother, airing earlier at 9pm, drew 975k (4.5%) for Channel 5 and 132k (0.7%) on +1

I dont know where you got 1.27 from when its 1.1 roughly and i also dont know where you got the 184K for +1 figure?

This isnt me being down on the ratings for the sake of it, im just stating the facts and not sugar coating things.