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Amber is the abuser. She also abused her sister Whitney.
Her former friend Jennifer is going to testify about this on Monday.
She said Whitney was lying to cover for her sister.
According to her Amber nearly pushed Whitney done the stairs.
And Whitney was trying to stop Amber from attacking Johnny.
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That doesn't mean Johnny is a saint.
They have had some very heated arguments.
But she admitted on tape to hitting Johnny.
I was hitting you, I wasn't punching you? Her own words.
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Amber is the abuser. She also abused her sister Whitney.
Her former friend Jennifer is going to testify about this on Monday.
She said Whitney was lying to cover for her sister.
According to her Amber nearly pushed Whitney done the stairs.
And Whitney was trying to stop Amber from attacking Johnny.
do you really think its ok to relentlessly attack a woman on this scale? and someone who is clearly suffering emotionally. The terrorist girl who was deported from the uk, didn't get anything remotely close to this in vitriol and she was a blinking terrorist that supported people who were actually murdering people
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The lengths a man has to go to to prove he was abused, against the word of a woman is honestly so sad, even in the face of all the evidence provided, he’s still not considered a victim of abuse by some because of his gender, it’s horrific, the ‘believe all women’ crew really has a lot to answer for
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do you really think its ok to relentlessly attack a woman on this scale? and someone who is clearly suffering emotionally. The terrorist girl who was deported from the uk, didn't get anything remotely close to this in vitriol and she was a blinking terrorist that supported people who were actually murdering people
I believe she's violent and has been abusing not only Johnny, but her sister and her ex wife.
Some of her former friends also said she hit them.
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The lengths a man has to go to to prove he was abused, against the word of a woman is honestly so sad, even in the face of all the evidence provided, he’s still not considered a victim of abuse by some because of his gender, it’s horrific, the ‘believe all women’ crew really has a lot to answer for
Also, someone is trying to stop Jennifer from testifying.
Her testimony could get Anbwr and Whitney done for perjury.
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The lengths a man has to go to to prove he was abused, against the word of a woman is honestly so sad, even in the face of all the evidence provided, he’s still not considered a victim of abuse by some because of his gender, it’s horrific, the ‘believe all women’ crew really has a lot to answer for
I agree. Men can also get abused.
And just because Amber is a woman doesn't mean she can't be an abuser. The evidence says that's exactly what she is.
I've seen pictures of Johnny and Amber when HE is the one with the black eyes, not her .
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She's been caught lying too many times.
People who are genuine do not lie.
Her story keeps changing, she keeps adding things that weren't in the original testimony.
Doesn't make any sense!
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She's got serious mental health problems though. I'd sectionher and put her on medication. But she needs to want to help herself in the long run. Counselling and therapy alone may not be enough.
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She's got serious mental health problems though. I'd sectionher and put her on medication. But she needs to want to help herself in the long run. Counselling and therapy alone may not be enough.
She's surrounded by enablers. People who always cover for her.
One day her anger is going to get her in serious trouble.
And I won't feel sorry for her at all. Because she keeps hurting people, including her own sister
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I don't like her much either Ness but there's something seriously amiss with her. I see red flags. Someone mentioned Caroline Flack. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
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I don't like her much either Ness but there's something seriously amiss with her. I see red flags. Someone mentioned Caroline Flack. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
She needs some serious help.
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The lengths a man has to go to to prove he was abused, against the word of a woman is honestly so sad, even in the face of all the evidence provided, he’s still not considered a victim of abuse by some because of his gender, it’s horrific, the ‘believe all women’ crew really has a lot to answer for
The court case is not about Depp proving he was abused. What are people finding so difficult about this?
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i just find this thread incredulous tbh. How people can attack the character of a woman relentlessly, who has clearly suffered is beyond me. I bet not one of you has experienced abuse in your own lives, if you had, you would have a different view, i'm sure
Not just relentlessly but gleefully. Pitchforks are properly out - it's honestly chilling. And from some people who consider themselves to be "allies" etc. happily lapping up the incel rhetoric that's been proven to be being spread by bots across social media.
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Lying under oath is perjury
It's a very serious crime.
She's already under investigation here in the UK and in Australia.
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i just find this thread incredulous tbh. How people can attack the character of a woman relentlessly, who has clearly suffered is beyond me. I bet not one of you has experienced abuse in your own lives, if you had, you would have a different view, i'm sure
Well you're speaking for most people seeing as most think she is the abuser and liar. Clearly suffered? Nothing clear about it.

I have read lots of comments on YouTube on people who have been abused and are still in favour of Depp.

To say that if you have been abused would make you have a different view is ridiculous. If anything it would probably make you realise even more who the actual abuser is.
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Tell the world, Johnny. Tell the world that you're a victim of DV and see how many believe you.
These are her words.
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Well you're speaking for most people seeing as most think she is the abuser and liar. Clearly suffered? Nothing clear about it.

I have read lots of comments on YouTube on people who have been abused and are still in favour of Depp.

To say that if you have been abused would make you have a different view is ridiculous. If anything it would probably make you realise even more who the actual abuser is.
What about the people she hurt? Don't they matter?
The sister she has abused her whole life, her ex wife, and god know how many more there are.
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do you really think its ok to relentlessly attack a woman on this scale? and someone who is clearly suffering emotionally. The terrorist girl who was deported from the uk, didn't get anything remotely close to this in vitriol and she was a blinking terrorist that supported people who were actually murdering people
Are you talking about on here? Because from what I saw of the 'terrorist girl' she got a LOT of hate so I don't think that's true.

Relentlessly attack a woman on this scale? People have opinions and don't happen to believe most of what she is saying. Why is this? Because of the evidence being brought forward in court.

I haven't read any death threats, personal insults about her looks, but rather observations and opinions on her behaviour! Not just talking about on here because that would be a miniscule example.

You say a 'woman'. What does sex have to do with it? It's OK for people to abuse and assume most men are the abusers, right?

I think you have to ask yourself why 97.8% of people do not believe Amber Heard's version of events unless most people are a bad judge or character or just refuse to believe the evidence presented.
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Tell the world, Johnny. Tell the world that you're a victim of DV and see how many believe you.
These are her words.
I listened to that audio clip along with others where she emotionally abused him.

He went to 5 different bathrooms to try and escape her. She kept coming for him.
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I listened to that audio clip along with others where she emotionally abused him.



He went to 5 different bathrooms to try and escape her. She kept coming for him.
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I think you have to ask yourself why 97.8% of people do not believe Amber Heard's version of events unless most people are a bad judge or character or just refuse to believe the evidence presented.
Social media/pop culture smear campaign on an unprecedented scale. Your stats aren’t even correct, there’s been a slow but clear shift in the number of people who can see that what’s going on here is not right in any way, that’s the one glimmer of light in this dark MRA neckbeard tunnel. You believe that 98% of people are team Depp because there’s a literal army of social media bots spamming that message.

Again it’s not about believing that Amber Heards version of events is 100% gospel truth the question is, is it libellous for her to have described herself as having been in an abusive relationship with Johnny Depp. From the kitchen video alone, it isn’t.

How can any woman after this ever realistically talk about having suffered abuse? They cannot. They’ve seen the consequences. The consequences are not in the courtroom, they’re the public lynchmobs and smear campaigns. MeToo is dead and women will have no choice but to go back to keeping quiet, or suffer the consequences. Well done guys, you did it!

And again where are the crusaders who usually like to be out with their placards proclaiming themselves the heroes of history? Nowhere to be seen. Absolute ****ing joke.

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What about the people she hurt? Don't they matter?
The sister she has abused her whole life, her ex wife, and god know how many more there are.

Her sister who backs her up? The ex wife who says their fight was taken out of context and supports her?

Of course they’re just “lying” too because they’re not saying what you want to hear, and have not backed up the social media hearsay that you would rather believe.
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