[Kizzy]

Hang on how personal can political words be? If you want good things for all then who cares who said it first?

That said it does not look good to be caught out in a lie, unless you're trump obv.
All this footage is from 88.. surely 32yrs in the political wilderness is penance enough?

Maybe it's internal sabotage like we had.. the dems screwing over their own. ...nah they already did that to sanders.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

All this footage is from 88.. surely 32yrs in the political wilderness is penance enough?

And he was only 40-odd at the time remember

Trump and Corbyn for example have both had things from decades ago bandied about as reasons note to vote for them, so why should Biden be any different

[Crimson Dynamo]

Youtube video

Pretty lady

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

And he was only 40-odd at the time remember

Trump and Corbyn for example have both had things from decades ago bandied about as reasons note to vote for them, so why should Biden be any different

We know what trumps were, draft dodger, rapist, bankrupt, sexist, tax evaders. What were the reasons Corbyn's shouldn't be voted for?

I know that invites accusations of 'percieved' reasons, so to avoid that im going to ask for actual evidence. As seen in the footage of Biden and the evidence we have of Trumps past, what actual footage or direct quote is there to suggest there was a genuine reason not to vote for Corbyn?

[Liam-]

The difference being is that Biden has very clearly changed after being enlightened and challenged through his years in government, Trump has never had to face the reality of his bigotry and as a result, most definitely has not changed the views he has always held, if anything, they seem to have gotten worse as he’s gotten older

[Swan]

Neck and neck now with most bookmakers, some have Biden slight favourite. I still think Trump will win as it stands, however with a good performance in the debates Biden could easily take it.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics...on-2020/winner

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Swan

Neck and neck now with most bookmakers, some have Biden slight favourite. I still think Trump will win as it stands, however with a good performance in the debates Biden could easily take it.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics...on-2020/winner

He's 10 pts ahead in the polls. The bookies are irrelevant.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

He's 10 pts ahead in the polls. The bookies are irrelevant.

Nah they're not.

Also, Clinton was way ahead too in 2016.

[Liam-]

Well they are, cause it’s based on what people think is going to happen, the polls are what people want to happen

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Well they are, cause it’s based on what people think is going to happen, the polls are what people want to happen

So 2 horse race, 1 horse 1/100 the other 1000/1. But bookie prices are irreverent? Ok.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Swan

So 2 horse race, 1 horse 1/100 the other 1000/1. But bookie prices are irreverent? Ok.

Well yes, cause like you said, Hillary was the very clear cut favourite with the bookies last time and she didn’t win

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Well yes, cause like you said, Hillary was the very clear cut favourite with the bookies last time and she didn’t win

A bookmaker never gets fooled twice. They were wrong last time admittedly.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Well yes, cause like you said, Hillary was the very clear cut favourite with the bookies last time and she didn’t win

Also wasn't Remaini the heavy favourite going into voting day?

[Swan]

The odds also reflect the general consensus, even the most hardcore supporter of either candidate will admit it'll be close.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Swan

The odds also reflect the general consensus, even the most hardcore supporter of either candidate will admit it'll be close.

They don't. They reflect who is betting money on it. Bookies are in the money business, not the consensus business.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

They don't. They reflect who is betting money on it. Bookies are in the money business, not the consensus business.

They literally employ researchers and analysts on sport, racing, TV, speciality bets (like politics) etc. They make the odds, and they'll fluctuate depending on bets placed yes, but that's not the only way they'll go up or down.

Trust me, if a video emerges of Trump saying 'all Christians are dumb' or something that will effect the vote, his odds will massively drift. If on election night Biden is 1/50 to win, he'll win, making the odds relevant.

The bookies are in both the money business, and the general consensus business. They're not the be all end all, but they're certainly not irrelevant.

[arista]

"Pretty lady"


Yes LT she is.

[Liam-]

Trump has just been endorsed by Osama Bin Laden’s niece... the honour

[Crimson Dynamo]

queen!

[Beso]

So trump dissed a few soldiers and the war mongerers get up in arms...

Peace out x

[Liam-]

Because nothing says ‘I’m not a racist, promise!’ Like cutting racial sensitivity training

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Because nothing says ‘I’m not a racist, promise!’ Like cutting racial sensitivity training

Not just an endorsement either, she stated ‘another 9/11 will be around the corner if Biden wins’

I mean, that sounds like a threat of terrorism does it not?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Because nothing says ‘I’m not a racist, promise!’ Like cutting racial sensitivity training

To be fair, there are better ways to spend time than going on about "white privilege" and critical race theory.

[Liam-]

Oops

[The Slim Reaper]

Unless Phil Bump works for betfred or William Hill, I'm afraid we'll have to ignore him