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Old 04-08-2009, 12:23 PM #51
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I think, Connie, you should quote a few references for your statements.
Illiteracy has always been with us. In the past there were many unskilled manual jobs which allowed people to go through life without needing to read. Many people had no driving licence, no bank account etc etc, there was much less pressure to be able to read.
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Some people aren't in the dunce class because they have learning difficulties etc. they're just there because they can't be arsed to learn. Looking at Lisa it's not hard to understand what she meant by 'I'm actually clever I just don't listen'

Because of that it's no big leap to understand why she now epitomises what people describe as 'layabout'
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If Lisa and other layabouts like her put as much effort into educating themselves, as they put into dodging work ("it's really difficult to get a job because I don't drive"), they might be able to disguise how stupid they are.

The Lisas of this world never seem to have dyslexia when they are signing for their dole cheque.
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my little girl is dyslexic and finds it very hard to read etc. she is made to feel stupid by others when they call her names like thicko and dunce. she might not be the best at writing or reading or have the best concentration, but she is gifted in other ways, like art and drama.

i can't stand lisa, but when she was at school it was very different to how it is now. slow learners weren't given as much support as they are now. they were basically put in the dunce class and given up on

i'd like to add that a very close family friend was in the dunce class the whole way through school, left at 12 years old and could barely read. he's now a self made multi millionaire. he still finds it hard to read etc, but he has a **** hot business mind and the best problem solver i know.
When I was at school, they hadn't invented dyslexia yet. Funnily enough, I never encountered one single person in my school who couldn't read at that time. Many found it difficult (because they were thicker than the rest), but they all got there eventually.

Now that they have invented dyslexia, they have an excuse for thick kids, and even though they throw "specialist teaching" resources at it, loads of people now leave school being unable to read.

Ask yourself why you don't run into a lot of 60 year olds in this country who can't read.....it's because even the thickest of them were made to get their head down and learn to do it, by their parents and teachers when they were kids. Nowadays, actually helping your own kids with stuff like this is too much bother for lazy parents and c rap teachers.
Statistical data shows your claims to be wrong. There are many illiterate 60+year olds. You are right that most people don't 'run into them'. This does NOT mean they do not exist.
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Lisa has had the last 20 years to better herself....



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Have you ever thought she could be too ashamed to ?

Holy joe cremola

I have heard it all now
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I reckon half the people on this forum were too.
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my little girl is dyslexic and finds it very hard to read etc. she is made to feel stupid by others when they call her names like thicko and dunce. she might not be the best at writing or reading or have the best concentration, but she is gifted in other ways, like art and drama.

i can't stand lisa, but when she was at school it was very different to how it is now. slow learners weren't given as much support as they are now. they were basically put in the dunce class and given up on

i'd like to add that a very close family friend was in the dunce class the whole way through school, left at 12 years old and could barely read. he's now a self made multi millionaire. he still finds it hard to read etc, but he has a **** hot business mind and the best problem solver i know.
When I was at school, they hadn't invented dyslexia yet. Funnily enough, I never encountered one single person in my school who couldn't read at that time. Many found it difficult (because they were thicker than the rest), but they all got there eventually.

Now that they have invented dyslexia, they have an excuse for thick kids, and even though they throw "specialist teaching" resources at it, loads of people now leave school being unable to read.

Ask yourself why you don't run into a lot of 60 year olds in this country who can't read.....it's because even the thickest of them were made to get their head down and learn to do it, by their parents and teachers when they were kids. Nowadays, actually helping your own kids with stuff like this is too much bother for lazy parents and c rap teachers.
Statistical data shows your claims to be wrong. There are many illiterate 60+year olds. You are right that most people don't 'run into them'. This does NOT mean they do not exist.

Firstly, I'm talking about people who were educated in this country, not older people coming from elsewhere, where the education system might not be so good......just to clear that one up.

Secondly, in all the years I have been on this earth, why have I never met one of these illiterates?
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Some people aren't in the dunce class because they have learning difficulties etc. they're just there because they can't be arsed to learn. Looking at Lisa it's not hard to understand what she meant by 'I'm actually clever I just don't listen'

Because of that it's no big leap to understand why she now epitomises what people describe as 'layabout'
Correct.

If Lisa and other layabouts like her put as much effort into educating themselves, as they put into dodging work ("it's really difficult to get a job because I don't drive"), they might be able to disguise how stupid they are.

The Lisas of this world never seem to have dyslexia when they are signing for their dole cheque.
Hira is not working either ,does the same apply to her ?
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Some people aren't in the dunce class because they have learning difficulties etc. they're just there because they can't be arsed to learn. Looking at Lisa it's not hard to understand what she meant by 'I'm actually clever I just don't listen'

Because of that it's no big leap to understand why she now epitomises what people describe as 'layabout'
Correct.

If Lisa and other layabouts like her put as much effort into educating themselves, as they put into dodging work ("it's really difficult to get a job because I don't drive"), they might be able to disguise how stupid they are.

The Lisas of this world never seem to have dyslexia when they are signing for their dole cheque.
Hira is not working either ,does the same apply to her ?
Hira is the one person in the house who has fewer brain cells than the two lumps of wood, Lisa and David.

I wouldn't trust her with the job of counting two battleships in a dry dock, so why would anyone else employ the idiot?
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What class Lisa was in at school does not excuse her behaviour, she`s a bad penny and needs to go.
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Some people aren't in the dunce class because they have learning difficulties etc. they're just there because they can't be arsed to learn. Looking at Lisa it's not hard to understand what she meant by 'I'm actually clever I just don't listen'

Because of that it's no big leap to understand why she now epitomises what people describe as 'layabout'
Correct.

If Lisa and other layabouts like her put as much effort into educating themselves, as they put into dodging work ("it's really difficult to get a job because I don't drive"), they might be able to disguise how stupid they are.

The Lisas of this world never seem to have dyslexia when they are signing for their dole cheque.
Hira is not working either ,does the same apply to her ?
Hira is the one person in the house who has fewer brain cells than the two lumps of wood, Lisa and David.

I wouldn't trust her with the job of counting two battleships in a dry dock, so why would anyone else employ the idiot?
So its ok for her to milk the system ?
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Some people aren't in the dunce class because they have learning difficulties etc. they're just there because they can't be arsed to learn. Looking at Lisa it's not hard to understand what she meant by 'I'm actually clever I just don't listen'

Because of that it's no big leap to understand why she now epitomises what people describe as 'layabout'
Correct.

If Lisa and other layabouts like her put as much effort into educating themselves, as they put into dodging work ("it's really difficult to get a job because I don't drive"), they might be able to disguise how stupid they are.

The Lisas of this world never seem to have dyslexia when they are signing for their dole cheque.
Hira is not working either ,does the same apply to her ?
Hira is the one person in the house who has fewer brain cells than the two lumps of wood, Lisa and David.

I wouldn't trust her with the job of counting two battleships in a dry dock, so why would anyone else employ the idiot?
So its ok for her to milk the system ?
Why would that be ok?
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Double standards connie
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Double standards connie
Why double standards?

I would hand them both a brush, and tell them to get into the street and do the only job that their level of intelligence will allow them to do properly.

Then tell them that their dole money would be paid after their supervisor Trigger was satisfied with the level of their work.

Equal treatment for window lickers like them is one of my beliefs.
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