[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

I think the problem with ben is he secretly fancies John james and hates himself for it.

What? Er speak for yourself!

Even if Ben were gay I doubt JJ would be his type. Youre overthinking it too much. He bitches about JJ coz JJ has been digging at him from the get go. Looking for an arguement for airtime.

[Legend killer]

mario does his fair share of being nasty and he's cruel with it to.
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Yea i dont really like mario either i find him very creepy u see the way he just sat there staring at ben on highlights last night very weird

[Ladieangel20]

Ben needs to stop making comments about people cause he is just giving BB the power to do a massive hatchet job on him in the highlights.

[joeysteele]

30stone, I challenged you and others to come back with anythign he has said that wasnt true about someone else,I dont need to back that up, BEN makes that easy for me by simlply saying things he's observed and heard which are about the others but always right.People on here try to disagree but it for them to come back with undisputable facts that he has said anything about anyone that was not true,I dont need to because I have said he has not done that and all the programmes bear testament to that, now agai YOU 30stone, come back with anything he's said that was untrue and back that up with the programming undisputable facts as to your point.
If you cannot then I anf his supporters are right and you are unjustly criticising a guy for soemthing he has not done, and as for bitcvhing, ALL the housemates do that and gossip too usaully inventing nonsene as to what smeone has said, JJames being the master of that. Over again to you 30stone.really,the impertinence of you people who have no argument you can back up whatsoever.
Thank you again Kazanne,how do we educate these individuals,are they incapable of understanding and learning at all?

[30stone]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

30stone, I challenged you and others to come back with anythign he has said that wasnt true about someone else,I dont need to back that up, BEN makes that easy for me by simlply saying things he's observed and heard which are about the others but always right.People on here try to disagree but it for them to come back with undisputable facts that he has said anything about anyone that was not true,I dont need to because I have said he has not done that and all the programmes bear testament to that, now agai YOU 30stone, come back with anything he's said that was untrue and back that up with the programming undisputable facts as to your point.
If you cannot then I anf his supporters are right and you are unjustly criticising a guy for soemthing he has not done, and as for bitcvhing, ALL the housemates do that and gossip too usaully inventing nonsene as to what smeone has said, JJames being the master of that. Over again to you 30stone.really,the impertinence of you people who have no argument you can back up whatsoever.
Thank you again Kazanne,how do we educate these individuals,are they incapable of understanding and learning at all?

Really?

So i should be following everything he says so i know when he slips up and says the wrong thing..

just so i can tell you when he messes up?


How about if you show me everything hes said in the show and ill find the bits where he has said something untrue.

The fact of the matter is he makes assumptions, he doesnt state facts, about peoples personalities.

[joeysteele]

BEN does say a lot about Mario,he has had Mario trying to get him for other reasons since day one. Yes, BEN does say things about MARIO BUT I WILL ENDEAVOUR TO TRY AND EXPLAIN THIS AGAIN TO YOU.He says things about MARIO but they are ALL true.Come back with anything he has said that isn't.with undisputable facts as to that.
Mario is also always running BEN down, saying some things that are NOT true, such as the GLEE task, Ben was apprehensive as to it, but he got into it and yes he seemed awkward but then he is as ANDREW STONE said classically trined, but BEN put great effort to succeed in that task,MARIO said he did not,MARIO lied,simple and factual.Even ANDREW STONE, when he was pushing BEN as to recording his streetlight people, but pushed and oushed Ben and BEN put his lal into that,whether it was good or not is snother matter but that alone shows that MARIO is a backstabber and a hypocrite,why is he hypocrite too/ HE is becaus ehad BEN showed the slightest interest in him sexually, BEN would ahve been the great hero for Mario,because he hasn't Mario has turned on him and LIES about him, Something BEN does not do anytime he talks about Mario,yes he talks about him but its all true what Ben says.He isn't a saint, but he says what he means and is honest with it.

[RosieRed xxx]

With Ben it's the fact that he has plenty to say behind their backs but when challenged he reverts back to being about 3 yrs and looking around for his nanny to come rescue him...."oh I didnt say that"..."You got me all wrong".."you are so mean to Me". You know he really wants to say "Nanny come and spank these naughty boys and girls their teasing me".
I think he has always had ppl look out for him and has no idea of the real world or how offensive some of his comments are.

[Kazanne]

If Ben was telling the truth about them,then all power to him,seems he DOES have more bottle than the rest of them.The truth HURTS afterall.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by kazanne

If Ben was telling the truth about them,then all power to him,seems he DOES have more bottle than the rest of them.The truth HURTS afterall.

If he had any bottle at all he would tell them to their faces instead of telling them all he loves them then scurrying off to the nest and doing it behind their backs like a gossiping old woman.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Josy

If he had any bottle at all he would tell them to their faces instead of telling them all he loves them then scurrying off to the nest and doing it behind their backs like a gossiping old woman.

Do you mean the way all the others bitch about fellow HMs behind their backs?

[30stone]

Originally Posted by angus58

Do you mean the way all the others bitch about fellow HMs behind their backs?

People are saying bens got more bottle than anyone.

Its not about the others bitching to, if ben has the most bottle he wouldnt bitch.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by 30stone

People are saying bens got more bottle than anyone.

Its not about the others bitching to, if ben has the most bottle he wouldnt bitch.

I haven't said he's got MORE bottle, I'm saying he has as much right as they do to bitch about nasty little gits who are using him as a punchbag in the house. I think he's quite restrained, I would have thumped some of them by now. He speaks the truth, so get over it.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by angus58

Do you mean the way all the others bitch about fellow HMs behind their backs?

Were in my post does it say they dont all bitch?

I was replying to the op saying Ben has the most bottle in the house when he clearly does not.......

Ben is the biggest bitcher in there, he has more faces than the town clock.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Josy

If he had any bottle at all he would tell them to their faces instead of telling them all he loves them then scurrying off to the nest and doing it behind their backs like a gossiping old woman.

How can he tell them to their faces ,when their faces are buried in the duvet all the timehe was only joking anyway people need to get a sense of humour afterall much has been said about ben behind his back from them two,Some minds are like concrete, thoroughly mixed up and permanently set

[heyugoonie]

If Ben is evicted on friday then its goodbye bb11 from me, I'm serious if he goes I will no longer be watching the series. I really do not like Josie and John James (esp Josie

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by heyugoonie

If Ben is evicted on friday then its goodbye bb11 from me, I'm serious if he goes I will no longer be watching the series. I really do not like Josie and John James (esp Josie

Didnt you post this in another thread, do worry I think dave is going

[heyugoonie]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

Didnt you post this in another thread, do worry I think dave is going

Yes I did, but it was the wrong thread so I deleted it and re-posted here.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by heyugoonie

Yes I did, but it was the wrong thread so I deleted it and re-posted here.

Oh I see

[paper-cut-exit]

Ben's has more bottle than everyone else now huh. These threads just keep on getting more ridiculous each day

[Kaaarenn!]

Ben just bitches about everyone. Erghh! Really starting to dislike him now

[Josy]

If Bens evicted this week his fans have no one to blame but themselves

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Josy

If Bens evicted this week his fans have no one to blame but themselves

How's that when it won't be US voting to evict him?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by angus58

How's that when it won't be US voting to evict him?

I'm sure you can work it out............

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by Kaaarenn!

Ben just bitches about everyone. Erghh! Really starting to dislike him now

Vote him out then

[joeysteele]

30STONE, IF YOU CANNOT NAME AN INSTANCE AND THEN BACK IT UP THEN HOW ARE YOU MAKING THE ASSUMPTIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE,sorry for the capitals, but I thought it may help get the message across, are you saying you cannot bring to mind anything he has said that you can back up at all with undisputable facts that were wrong,if that is the case then what on earth are you saying anything as to his integrity at all for then.I repeat, I DONT NEED TO, I ahve said thta all he says about others,and yes, he says a loy about them all, is true, he only says what he sees and hears hinslef, he makes no assumptions of what others may say about someone, he simply states his view, what he has seen and what he has heard and all of it is true, all the programming is testament to that.Since you made the comment he did otherwise then you need to prove that is so, if you cannot, and you dont even have an ainstance to recall easlily from past or recent memory then for goodness sake how can your argument have any creedence whatsoever.
Facts are facts,I state that I know from all the programming I ahve seen, whether live feed, E4 or Channel 4 highlights that he has never done that, he says a lot about people but its all true that he says.whether its nice or not is immaterial as long as its true,now you, from that same source I and everyone else has cannot legitimately name a single instance, I think in anyones book, that m
makes me right and you at the very least dubious in your criticism og Ben with no examples. I actually find it sad that people attack someone who only tells the truth, even though they may not like what he says, but, that doesn't negate his integrity,far from it. It does however show greatly unjustified and downright wrong is the criticism as to his honesty by people who just dont care for Ben throw at him with no substance to their argument or criticism at all.