[jyunga]

I don't understand where all the confusion and conspiracy **** is coming from. Go back and rewatch the episode. They told them to shut up and not talk during the nominations... multiple times... and they shocked them repeatedly and swapped them around. It's pretty obviously that for the task the rule was "don't talk about nominations".

They continuously broke the rule and tried to fix who would be up and BB didn't want to have any of it. After the first attempt and swapping places they voted again. Aaron broke the voting by not voting for Alex... which messed up the 'fix' to get them all up this week. Instead of Lousie picking who she wanted, she picked Tom. You can see Jay looking and leaning his head at Tom telling her who to pick. I don't see how BB was unjustified to point out that she was influenced... cause she was. She even said in the DR afterwards that she didn't want to vote for Alex and Tom.... so yeah... he was influenced at the time.

Seems pretty straightforward to me.

As for the edit, they did show it on BOTS. So if they were trying to hide it they wouldn't have done that would they? I know it sounds cheap to say but maybe they didn't add it in because at the end of the day it was irrelevant to the final result? I agree it makes Lousie look bad though. But they did edit in a lot of Lousie **** to make her look better in the end.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jyunga

I don't understand where all the confusion and conspiracy **** is coming from. Go back and rewatch the episode. They told them to shut up and not talk during the nominations... multiple times... and they shocked them repeatedly and swapped them around. It's pretty obviously that for the task the rule was "don't talk about nominations".

The continuously broke the rule and tried to fix who would be up and BB didn't want to have any of it. After the first attempt and swapping places they voted again. Aaron broke the voting by not voting for Alex... which messed up the 'fix' to get them all up this week. Instead of Lousie picking who she wanted, she picked Tom. You can see Jay looking and leaning his head at Tom telling her who to pick. I don't see how BB was unjustified to point out that she was influenced... cause she was. She even said in the DR afterwards that she didn't want to vote for Alex and Tom.... so yeah... he was influenced at the time.

Seems pretty straightforward to me.

The point is...they didnt show this on the HLs. Why? They made out as if Louise just picked Faye, rather than having her vote disallowed.

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l18F0VC4N0 (13.34)

I'm 99% sure that's her original nomination for Tom, just a different camera angle to the BBOTS clip which they spliced in the wrong sequence. Her voice and facial expression is exactly the same. Crap editing.

No, she looks up to the left as she says Tom in the BBBOTS one, and it the HL she doesn't do that.

[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

No, she looks up to the left as she says Tom in the BBBOTS one, and it the HL she doesn't do that.

Wow, right you are...so she did nominate Tom on the second time! geez, this is really dodgy now!!

[Marmalite]

Originally Posted by jyunga

I don't understand where all the confusion and conspiracy **** is coming from. Go back and rewatch the episode. They told them to shut up and not talk during the nominations... multiple times... and they shocked them repeatedly and swapped them around. It's pretty obviously that for the task the rule was "don't talk about nominations".

They continuously broke the rule and tried to fix who would be up and BB didn't want to have any of it. After the first attempt and swapping places they voted again. Aaron broke the voting by not voting for Alex... which messed up the 'fix' to get them all up this week. Instead of Lousie picking who she wanted, she picked Tom. You can see Jay looking and leaning his head at Tom telling her who to pick. I don't see how BB was unjustified to point out that she was influenced... cause she was. She even said in the DR afterwards that she didn't want to vote for Alex and Tom.... so yeah... he was influenced at the time.

Seems pretty straightforward to me.

As for the edit, they did show it on BOTS. So if they were trying to hide it they wouldn't have done that would they? I know it sounds cheap to say but maybe they didn't add it in because at the end of the day it was irrelevant to the final result? I agree it makes Lousie look bad though. But they did edit in a lot of Lousie **** to make her look better in the end.

If that were the case then what was all the crap afterwards and in the diary about not wanting to put Tom up then?

Sorry but the nom for Tom that was disqualified was her first round of nom not her 2nd - they then cancelled it and moved them all around. She then chose Aaron and Faye just like she would have done anyway if she was choosing privately in the diary room.

[jyunga]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Vip...youtu.be&t=453

Watch at that point (7:33). Pretty clear Jay was picking the nom for Lousie. BB told them to make their own choices. Yes they edited it outta the main show for whatever reasons. But at the end of the day, she should have made her own pick.

[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by jyunga

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Vip...youtu.be&t=453

Watch at that point (7:33). Pretty clear Jay was picking the nom for Lousie. BB told them to make their own choices. Yes they edited it outta the main show for whatever reasons. But at the end of the day, she should have made her own pick.

This is getting weirder and weirder!!

On the first round on the HL show Louise says "my first nomination is for Faye".

On the second round on the HL show she says - "My second nomination is (pause...head nod) Faye".

And on BBOTS (after BB refuses Tom) she says - "Ok Faye".

So they filmed her nominating Faye on 3 separate occasions!

[fingers]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

This is getting weirder and weirder!!

On the first round on the HL show Louise says "my first nomination is for Faye".

On the second round on the HL show she says - "My second nomination is (pause...head nod) Faye".

And on BBOTS (after BB refuses Tom) she says - "Ok Faye".

So they filmed her nominating Faye on 3 separate occasions!

Maybe they thought they were shooting a movie and BB said "Take six, no let's do it again, Take seven" makes as much sense as their botched attempts at editing!

[jyunga]

It was probably more like.

BB: you were influenced.
Lousie: "no ayy wahzunt.. oh faye...... my second nomination is ..... faye"

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

This is getting weirder and weirder!!

On the first round on the HL show Louise says "my first nomination is for Faye".

On the second round on the HL show she says - "My second nomination is (pause...head nod) Faye".

And on BBOTS (after BB refuses Tom) she says - "Ok Faye".

So they filmed her nominating Faye on 3 separate occasions!

You hear in the editing where they cut her off at 'is' then skip to her then choosing Faye.

[psychtracker]

Yeah, i guess they must have got her to run through it again.

[iRyan]

Originally Posted by Mollie.

Reason #522632 of why we need a live feed

Agreed. I'm sick of all the conspiracy theories and being manipulated by producers.

[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by Bollo

(tom was the only person to stick to the two people on the left of him as planned,then it seemed to be a free for all);
Tom - Jay & Louise
Fay- Alex & Louise
Alex - Jay & Faye
Jay - Aaron & Faye
Aaron - Louise & Tom
Louise - Aaron & Faye

No, Tom botched it up right from the start, he should have picked - Jay & Alex.

[LeXcellence]

I've been bashing Louise. Yet it's their fault. Did they show a clip showing they said she couldn't put Tom up? Or is it taking their word on it?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Samuel.

Youtube video

Originally Posted by LeXcellence

I've been bashing Louise. Yet it's their fault. Did they show a clip showing they said she couldn't put Tom up? Or is it taking their word on it?

^^

[Bollo]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

No, Tom botched it up right from the start, he should have picked - Jay & Alex.

Oops, my bad! So it was a complete free for all the second time round then..

[psychtracker]

correct

[BBfanUSA]

What I Saw

BB thought Lousie's noms were influenced so he made her nominate again. During Aaron's noms she was saying WTF is he doing to Jay

[fingers]

Blatant and deliberate interference and manipulation of nominations by the production team, WTF did BB expect when they allowed noms discussions?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

No, Tom botched it up right from the start, he should have picked - Jay & Alex.

Correct, how could Tom have picked the right two when Louise was originally sitting between Aaron and Faye..give me strength.

[crocs]

Well, maybe BB will learn something out of this. Next time, get them to do them in the DR first so they think the others cannot find it out. They would not have gone for the "all up for eviction" business in that case. Then they would have done it face to face and they couldn't have been changing the votes. They could have been able to change the reasons and not be as blunt about it than in the DR but not been able to change the persons.

[Bollo]

Originally Posted by CherieB

Correct, how could Tom have picked the right two when Louise was originally sitting between Aaron and Faye..give me strength.

I already addressed this earlier in the thread thanks

[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by CherieB

Correct, how could Tom have picked the right two when Louise was originally sitting between Aaron and Faye..give me strength.

Yep. It's been mentioned a lot already, but the most likely scenario seems to be - when they were changing up Tom was telling them to remember who was next to each other, so they could rig it again. But, when BB did the grumpy voice, trying to dissuade them from rigging the vote again, Tom bottled it, and altered his vote to who he wanted. As per BB's directions.

The strange thing was, you'd think Aaron could use that as justification for voting how he liked. But he didn't, which was odd. Seemed like Tom snuck under the radar with that maneuver, and he also managed to get a few digs at Aaron as well!