[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Glenn

And without a second thought for his poor wife in the process.




Yeah.

You really think a person who loved his son so much he couldn't bear to be on this planet without him, could be that heartless to not even give "a second thought for his poor wife in the process" I'm really surprised at you Glenn.

[Roy Mars III]

what Glenn is saying has rings of truth to it, but went about explaining it and arguing for it in the worst way possible.

But the truth is when you are in the that state you are not thinking like a totally rational person. Depression get a grips of you and stops you from fully analyzing the situation like you normally would. To call him a coward is just the height of ignorance.

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by Niall

He was depressed Glenn. Its a mental illness. He was unwell. To criticise someone who was in a such a delicate state and had gone through such a rough time in their life is just uncalled for.

He most likely didn't think of his wife because, as I stated before, he couldn't cope with his day to day existence, and therefore sought a way out.

100% this

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Niall

He was depressed Glenn. Its a mental illness. He was unwell. To criticise someone who was in a such a delicate state and had gone through such a rough time in their life is just uncalled for.

He most likely didn't think of his wife because, as I stated before, he couldn't cope with his day to day existence, and therefore sought a way out.

There's help out there for people who go through this.

It must just be me, but if I lost a child I would want to try and get through the situation with the people I love, more so my wife who would be going through the same thing as me. To just end it all wouldn't be an option remotely.

[Jake.]

When your in that state, you haven't got the mindset of which you would normally have. To slag him off because he has left his wife behind is just plain stupid. Noone knows what its like going through what the two parents went through until it has personally happened to you.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Glenn

There's help out there for people who go through this.

It must just be me, but if I lost a child I would want to try and get through the situation with the people I love, more so my wife who would be going through the same thing as me. To just end it all wouldn't be an option remotely.

So he is in the wrong because you would be able to cope with it better? My god.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

No Glenn, your point is soo ridiculous that it's making her angry, being right is something different.

[Glenn.]

He was doing good in the world with his anti bullying campaign. It should of been enough for him to cope with his days. Knowing he was helping in memory of his son.

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by Glenn

He was doing good in the world with his anti bullying campaign. It should of been enough for him to cope with his days. Knowing he was helping in memory of his son.

who are you to be able to say that

[Angus]

Isn't it just as selfish for others to want those in mental, emotional and physical pain to soldier on in a life they no longer want or enjoy and which they find a daily torture?

The pain of losing one of my children would be unbearable for me, but personally I would never commit suicide because of those I would leave behind, but that would be MY choice and I doubt I'd give a stuff about a stranger's opinion. Walk a mile in someone's shoes before you judge them.

As for being a coward's way out, is it? I think it would take immense courage to kill oneself, when you think of all that could go wrong in the process, or if one is a believer in an afterlife, not knowing for sure what might wait beyond the veil.

[CharlieO]

I read this and felt sad.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

who are you to be able to say that

Exactly... He acts as if he himself has lived through the pain...

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You really think a person who loved his son so much he couldn't bear to be on this planet without him, could be that heartless to not even give "a second thought for his poor wife in the process" I'm really surprised at you Glenn.

He could have a bad relationship with his wife you don't know?

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by JH95

Exactly... He acts as if he himself has lived through the pain...

But my Nan and Grandad have, and they haven't killed themselves.

Neither has the wife in this situation.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Angus

Isn't it just as selfish for others to want those in mental, emotional and physical pain to soldier on in a life they no longer want or enjoy and which they find a daily torture?

The pain of losing one of my children would be unbearable for me, but personally I would never commit suicide because of those I would leave behind, but that would be MY choice and I doubt I'd give a stuff about a stranger's opinion. Walk a mile in someone's shoes before you judge them.

As for being a coward's way out, is it? I think it would take immense courage to kill oneself, when you think of all that could go wrong in the process, or if one is a believer in an afterlife, not knowing for sure what might wait beyond the veil.

Exactly Angus.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Glenn

But my Nan and Grandad have, and they haven't killed themselves.

Neither has the wife in this situation.

My great Nan has, and she is still here. But last time I knew, everybody is different and takes stress differently.

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by Glenn

But my Nan and Grandad have, and they haven't killed themselves.

Neither has the wife in this situation.

everyone handles things differently

[Glenn.]

And everyone has different opinions on everything.

[CharlieO]

Glenn is wrong. All emotions are controlled by chemicals in the brain, some people produce more bad emotions and cannot handle it, each case varies you cannot say that someone should be able to cope.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Glenn

And everyone has different opinions on everything.

There is an opinion, then there is being rude and disrespectful.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by CharlieO

Glenn is wrong. All emotions are controlled by chemicals in the brain, some people produce more bad emotions and cannot handle it, each case varies you cannot say that someone should be able to cope.

Exactly Charlie, as for your other post about his relationship with his wife, who knows? I don't, that's the whole point really, nobody knows how he was feeling at the time.

[Glenn.]

All I'm saying is the only people I feel sorry for in situations of suicide are the people left behind. Because in my opinion suicide isn't the answer for anything. All it does is cause more pain and suffering, which obviously people on here are OK with.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Angus

Isn't it just as selfish for others to want those in mental, emotional and physical pain to soldier on in a life they no longer want or enjoy and which they find a daily torture?

The pain of losing one of my children would be unbearable for me, but personally I would never commit suicide because of those I would leave behind, but that would be MY choice and I doubt I'd give a stuff about a stranger's opinion. Walk a mile in someone's shoes before you judge them.

As for being a coward's way out, is it? I think it would take immense courage to kill oneself, when you think of all that could go wrong in the process, or if one is a believer in an afterlife, not knowing for sure what might wait beyond the veil.

Yeah I'd say I agree with this, I find it something hard to comment on because I can't imagine how far at the edge you feel for suicide to be considered the only option, although that's also why I think it's pretty narrow-minded just to label him as "selfish" and be done with it

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Glenn

All I'm saying is the only people I feel sorry for in situations of suicide are the people left behind. Because in my opinion suicide isn't the answer for anything. All it does is cause more pain and suffering, which obviously people on here are OK with.

Find me one single post in this thread where anyone has said, that they're fine with the people left behind suffering.

[Kizzy]

obviously....dear me....im done on this thread. I made my point.