[smeagol]

has anyone here seen the recent movie prisoners which is a really good film. his daughter gets taken and he tortures the guy responsible to find out where she is. its a good dilemma to save your own kid what would you do.

the nuke things is a obvious yes torture the sucker. but it works on many other things as well.
those who say no would say yes in the right circumstance and in reality.

[Glenn.]

I would do what was necessary so yes, I would torture.

[Z]

Torture's always a last ditch attempt used to break someone who won't be broken and doesn't really achieve much IMO because people will say anything to end their suffering.

[arista]

Its like in a episode of 24
years ago.

A nuke bomb was ready
so the man that knew about it was wounded
and Jack B. Attacked the wound
to give him Extreme Pain.


On person Torture to save millions
Of course you would


Talk Sense you lot

Originally Posted by arista

Its like in a episode of 24
years ago.

A nuke bomb was ready
so the man that knew about it was wounded
and Jack B. Attacked the wound
to give him Extreme Pain.


On person Torture to save millions
Of course you would


Talk Sense you lot

24 isn't a documentary. Thought I should probably clarify that for you.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

24 isn't a documentary. Thought I should probably clarify that for you.

Yes Everyone knows

Its a Action Thriller


That makes sense

[smeagol]

people are funny
some wont use torture to save lives. thats shocking. but if the life was someone they loved i bet you any money they would be sharpening knifes and preparing the nut clamps lol

and some say torture doesn't work. well thats like saying its always sunny.
come here i can make you tell me where your porn stashes are lol

Originally Posted by smeagol

people are funny
some wont use torture to save lives. thats shocking. but if the life was someone they loved i bet you any money they would be sharpening knifes and preparing the nut clamps lol

and some say torture doesn't work. well thats like saying its always sunny.
come here i can make you tell me where your porn stashes are lol

[GypsyGoth]

I think saving millions, regardless of your point of view on torture, should be the main focus. Think of it as sacrificing your morals for this one good deed.

What good is having a righteous point of view on torture when your inaction causes all those deaths, I think that's a far greater evil than committing torture.

[HD]

I want waterboarding, sounds kinky as ****.

[arista]

Originally Posted by HD

I want waterboarding, sounds kinky as ****.

No its Choking as Water is forced down your throat FAST
Near Death

[HD]

Originally Posted by arista

No its Choking as Water is forced down you throat FAST
Near Death

A liquid forced down throat is torture?

[arista]

Originally Posted by HD

A liquid forced down throat is torture?

yes as you can not breath
so you choke - some die


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding

[HD]

Originally Posted by arista

yes as you can not breath
so you choke - some die


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding

[Livia]

Torture doesn't always work, but sometimes it does. But there's more than one way to skin a cat. I'm not a fan of torture but I am a fan of chemicals and that'd be the first tool in my bag. As far as physical torture itself goes I think it would be far more effective to torture someone they loved. If it meant saving thousands of lives from terrorist scum, get in there with the pliers, that's what I say.

[Apple202]

Originally Posted by HD

A liquid forced down throat is torture?

Originally Posted by Livia

Torture doesn't always work, but sometimes it does. But there's more than one way to skin a cat. I'm not a fan of torture but I am a fan of chemicals and that'd be the first tool in my bag. As far as physical torture itself goes I think it would be far more effective to torture someone they loved. If it meant saving thousands of lives from terrorist scum, get in there with the pliers, that's what I say.

So you'd torture innocent people to protect innocent people?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Apple202

So you'd torture innocent people to protect innocent people?

No, I'd torture an innocent person who was close to a guilty person to save thousands of people.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Livia

No, I'd torture an innocent person who was close to a guilty person to save thousands of people.

I don't often quote you nowadays because you tend to take my comments too personally but I couldn't let this go...

You would torture innocent people to save innocent people !!!

Really ....??? So it's a numbers game save more than you kill and it's OK ??

Really..... Words fail me ....

[Livia]

If the alternatives are, let a terrorist and his loved one live in comfort... and let thousands of people die... or get information from the terrorist and his loved one in anyway I could and save thousands... it's a no brainer. It's all about the greater good.

This is a thread for people's opinions. No one's really going to die and no one's really going to torture anyone, so there's no need for the outrage and the exclamation marks.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Livia

If the alternatives are, let a terrorist and his loved one live in comfort... and let thousands of people die... or get information from the terrorist and his loved one in anyway I could and save thousands... it's a no brainer. It's all about the greater good.

This is a thread for people's opinions. No one's really going to die and no one's really going to torture anyone, so there's no need for the outrage and the exclamation marks.

There you go again... Taking my comments too personally

Btw I always use exclamation marks pretty much on all my posts !!

[Kizzy]

So personally you couldn't do it, so you would order livia to do it because you know she could... Thanks for clearing that up ammi

[Ammi]

..that's not what I said at all but work awaits me...in the fighting forces and people who make those decisions, we are ever grateful to them and would not be what we are without them but that doesn't mean that we could all do the same/be the same otherwise we all would and would all be fairly much the same...

[Livia]

I totally get what Ammi's saying. As a tenuous analogy... I'm glad there are people in the world who can look after physically and mentally disabled people, but I myself couldn't be a carer. I'm not the right type, I don't have the right stuff. Luckily, the human race is rich and varied and we all rely on each other for different things.

So... if you want someone tortured, PM thesheriff or me and we'll come to some kind of arrangement.

[Scarlett.]

I think in the case of stopping a nuclear bomb going off is the only time that torture would be understandable, I mean, I'm totally against torture, but a nuclear bomb would be absolutely devastating, on a very large scale.